Will Labour ever be a Government again ?

[BrilloPad]

Even "white van" man isn't stupid enough to vote for EU loving, immigrant loving Labour.

This.

Of course, if we get Blair witch project 2 they might be re-elected. Which is Tory in disguise.

Alternatively, Corbyn could go and talk to ordinary voters and work on a policy of removing inequality(including an end to immigration). But he is too busy fighting the Labour MPs.

[eek]

This.

Of course, if we get Blair witch project 2 they might be re-elected. Which is Tory in disguise.

Alternatively, Corbyn could go and talk to ordinary voters and work on a policy of removing inequality(including an end to immigration). But he is too busy fighting the Labour MPs.

Corbyn likes free immigration. It's how Labour won the 2005 election - Pakistan villages (and others) voted on mass for the Labour party...

And before anyone complains

1) all the dodgy postal voting scandals have been in areas where local "leaders" have ensured people have postal votes and then helped to ensure those votes are used....

2) most Pakistanis I know also know others nearby originally from the same village. Its actually not that surprising, one arrives in a town / area and once they know the town others follow them as "Naseem" who arrived first can help them get settled...

[LondonManc]

Corbyn's promises sound great until you ask him a detailed question about how he's going to pay for everything.

[VectraMan]

Corbyn's promises sound great until you ask him a detailed question about how he's going to pay for everything.

To be fair that's true of all politicians.

[The Only Way Is Keynsham]

Corbyn likes free immigration. It's how Labour won the 2005 election - Pakistan villages (and others) voted on mass for the Labour party...

And before anyone complains

1) all the dodgy postal voting scandals have been in areas where local "leaders" have ensured people have postal votes and then helped to ensure those votes are used....

2) most Pakistanis I know also know others nearby originally from the same village. Its actually not that surprising, one arrives in a town / area and once they know the town others follow them as "Naseem" who arrived first can help them get settled...

And all the Indians I know voted Brexit/Tory. That is recently naturalised Indians that I've worked with.

[LondonManc]

To be fair that's true of all politicians.

More the case with traditional socialists - very good until they run out of other people's money.

[SueEllen]

And all the Indians I know voted Brexit/Tory. That is recently naturalised Indians that I've worked with.

Indians != Pakistanis

Indians especially Sikhs and Hindus are more likely to vote Tory but it helps if the Tory party doesn't insult them.

In fact my local Tory MP's election campaign manager is a lady of Indian heritage, and she is very good at her role. Well the MP was everywhere while the oppositions only realised she was making him go to free places to talk to people halfway through the campaign.

[saptastic]

More the case with traditional socialists - very good until they run out of other people's money.

Exactly right. Never sustainable.

The trouble is the labour party is made up of very diverse views that try and hold together to gain power (like the Tories).
As soon as there is an extreme element in control the cracks will show.
And the party that can appeal to the centre ground will have a better chance to gain power.
Hold on..... isnt that what the Lib Dems are for.....that kills that argument.

[VectraMan]

Hold on..... isnt that what the Lib Dems are for.....that kills that argument.

Maybe we're returning to the pre-WW1 politics of Liberals vs Conservatives.

[LondonManc]

Maybe we're returning to the pre-WW1 politics of Liberals vs Conservatives.

With Corbyn marginalised towards a Socialist Worker Party?