Breakfast Brexit Merge

[AtW]

Are people so fooking stupid to realise the European dream is fake.

Made up by the rich for the Rich and voted to remain by people who think they are rich.

Listening to these chunts with a so called higher education. it makes me understand why our country is fooked.

Blind idiots

So, do you feel rich now that UK has decided to Leave EU? Whole country lost 10% of wealth due to sterling depreciation, which right now is very minor - we'll see big falls in the very near future when Boris starts making changes that the markets ain't going to like: AAA status is certainly to be lost now.

[AtW]

Nigel Farage was saying he would be requesting a second referendum in the event that he loses.

FTFY

[unemployed]

So, do you feel rich now that UK has decided to Leave EU? Whole country lost 10% of wealth due to sterling depreciation, which right now is very minor - we'll see big falls in the very near future when Boris starts making changes that the markets ain't going to like: AAA status is certainly to be lost now.

They can have the lot.as far as I am concerned

My currency bricks and mortar was devalued by money years ago

[Flashman]

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[SueEllen]

Johnson and Gove have suddenly gone quiet.

Gidiot where are you? You haven't been seen since Thursday.

[AtW]

Johnson and Gove have suddenly gone quiet.

Gidiot where are you? You haven't been seen since Thursday.

I reckon they negotiate quicker change of PM before waiting for October, EU isn't happy to wait. They need new emergency budget, possibly last one for Gidiot to at least slow down movement out of companies - a lot of investment plans were on hold, and now will be cancelled unless there is a great reason to continue, like say 10% corp tax _NOW_, not in 2020 before Labour wins.

[minestrone]

Ill informed and undeducated leave voters

Two things seem to be accepted...

1. The older you are the more likely you are to vote leave

2. If you have a degree you are more likely to vote remain

The assumption is that if you are educated you are more likely to vote remain.

Where is the assumption wrong?

[DimPrawn]

The so called young ejukated are far from it. Ejukated under Bliar, their degree in meeja studies is worth jack tulip.

The snowflake generation are pathetic.

[scooterscot]

These degree educated lefties know what they are talking about

A spot on comment taken from the Guardian

Boris may have been outplayed indeed.

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

[AtW]

The truth is simple - Cameron is a coward who did not go through with what he promised: invoke article 50.

Who cares if Boris is finished or not? Cameron got too personal in this thing, who knows maybe if he could keep his relations with Boris professional then Boris would have never backed Leave campaign.