EU Referendum: Do we enough information to take the correct decision?

[DimPrawn]

Brexit may be the best answer to a dying eurozone | Larry Elliott | Opinion | The Guardian

^ This.

Plain and simple.

[OwlHoot]

2016-05-24 The EU will lay siege to the City if we vote to Remain

We are talking about a square-mile of land that currently generates £45 billion for the UK economy. Often attacked for its profligacy and so-called Gordon Gekko capitalism, the reality of its huge contributions in terms of jobs and tax contributions to the Exchequer are almost always underestimated.

But all of these benefits will be put at risk by an increasing volume of financial regulation from Brussels if we remain after June 23rd.

The City has already suffered under the EU. Its growth has been hampered by EU regulations, especially since 2008 when regulation shifted to continental institutions – the European Securities and Markets Authority, European Banking Authority and European Insurance and Occupational Pensions Authority.

In the forty years up to 2008, the annual growth rate of UK financial services was an average 12.9 per cent each year. Post-2008, it has been less than six per cent each year.

And staying now means watching the Eurozone move to complete its full banking and markets union using the framework and the institutions of the European Union. Without any new protections in the once much heralded and now often forgotten renegotiation, the UK will be left powerless to prevent the Eurozone from introducing new EU-wide regulations that will harm the City’s competitiveness.

The EU’s leading lights have always eyed the City with jealousy and as a terrible threat that must be brought to heel. They will place it under siege. The City will have to deal with wave after wave of attacks from Brussels. The Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive, introduced in 2011, costs the UK financial services sector £1.5 billion per year. If we remain, there will be just more of the same.

The EU has ambitions for a common corporation tax and wants to end trust fund structures that help the City of London operate. It will also introduce a single European wide financial regulator based in Frankfurt that will undermine the City of London.

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... a vote to Remain in this burdensome club would be a vote to abandon the section of the economy our country most depends upon.

A vote to Leave will be an embrace of our outward-looking, globally trading ambitions. It will be a vote that could add £25 billion to London’s output and over 200,000 jobs across UK by 2020.

[OwlHoot]

2016-05-24 Cameron’s Hollow Deal - We gave up a veto, and may not get what we were promised in return

You would be forgiven for thinking we had few remaining EU vetoes to give up, yet back in February we managed to trade one of the very last in return for David Cameron’s EU deal.

For contrary to the impression given, our EU partners did not spontaneously agree to create a “reformed EU” – the reforms were minor and not voluntary – it was a straightforward old fashioned EU deal. We had something they wanted and in return the Prime Minister got what he wanted – the illusion of reform.

What we traded was our veto allowing us to stop the further Eurozone integration seen as necessary to try and make the Euro work. If we vote to remain this deal will now play out, but not necessarily as envisaged.

This is because the legally binding nature of some parts of the deal are more certain than others. It is possible we may end up without the minor concessions that the Prime Minister was promised, yet simultaneously have already given up our ability to argue for more comprehensive reform by wielding our veto at the time of the next EU treaty change.

The worst of both worlds – in the EU but with no influence over its future direction, despite the probability that further Eurozone integration, backed up by their 65 per cent plus majority vote, will end up affecting the UK.

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[AtW]

EU referendum poll: pensioners, Tory voters and men are deserting the Brexit campaign

"The majority of older voters, Conservative supporters and men are now backing the campaign to stay in the EU following a collapse in support for Brexit, a new exclusive poll for the Telegraph shows. The poll finds that the Remain campaign now has a 13-point lead with just one month until the referendum. The latest ORB poll puts Remain on 55 per cent and Leave trailing on 42 per cent, among people who definitely intend to vote. Amongst all voters, the Remain campaign now has a 20-point lead, with 58 per cent of voters saying they back the pro-EU campaign."

[AtW]

2016-05-24 The EU will lay siege to the City if we vote to Remain

Do you often read conservativewoman.co.uk?

[vetran]

Stay:
In a globalised world, every country must work closer with others if the want to flourish economically. A Little Englander desire for isolation will undermine the UK, plus the PM might have won an opt-out to “ever closer union” come the referendum.

hmm

[shaunbhoy]

It is understood that the figures in the poll for the Telegraph reflect the private polling being done by Downing Street ahead of the June 23 vote

So basically they had a show of hands at one of "Call me Dave's" cocktail evenings then?

[darmstadt]

More information from the Brexiters:

Brexit campaign publishes private phone numbers of Eurosceptic rivals

Can we call them Project ****** now?

[AtW]

Brexit team and arguments are so pathetic that even a Camoron is going to get a landslide.

Hopefully after reshuffle Boris will become Minister without portfolio for Northern Ireland.

[darmstadt]

Brexit team and arguments are so pathetic that even a Camoron is going to get a landslide.

Hopefully after reshuffle Boris will become Minister without portfolio for Northern Ireland.

Nah, he'll go off with his mate: