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Originally posted by Flashman View PostNo, the BBC are saying that.
Whether in Poland, Madagascar or the Soviet Union, these plans show unambiguously that the deported Jews would have succumbed to a combination of malnutrition, disease, forced labour and general abuse. Thus even the 'territorial solutions' were effectively conceived to bring about the physical end of the Jews in Europe.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostBut you are quoting selectively, how about this piece from the article:
These were not peaceful solutions - they'd get killed anyway, most likely concentration camps would have appeared in those reservations in Madagascar, it changes nothing, it's the end result that matters - murder of millions of jews and other nations in death camps.
1. At one point in history there was a Nazi plan to re-locate all Jewish people from Europe .
"The Madagascar plan" is part of the historical record as the Professor who wrote the article for the BBC explained.
2. This seems to be the thing that Ken Livingstone has been rambling on about.
3. Some people has suggested that Ken Livingstone seems to think this would have been a good idea. The whole 'Nazi apologist' thing.
Take your problems with that up with Ken. Care of the Labour Party.Last edited by Flashman; 29 April 2016, 21:54.Comment
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Originally posted by Flashman View Post"The Madagascar plan" is part of the historical record as the Professor who wrote the article for the BBC explained.
Basically the Nazi's hated the Jews and were determind to get rid of them one way or another. Their 'Final Solution' was genocide.
Nazies crimes are proven, they are so horrible that any talk of "they had better intentions in mind" is pointless, maybe Harold Shipman just wanted to test some new drugs on patients for the good of the science, who cares if he ended up killing so many of them?
Originally posted by Flashman View Post3. Some people has suggested that Ken Livingstone seems to think this would have been a good idea. The whole 'Nazi apologist' thing.Last edited by AtW; 29 April 2016, 22:01.Comment
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Originally posted by Flashman View PostStrictly speaking Ken's not that far off. At one point Hitler was planning to re-locate the Jewish population of Europe to a far away country.
“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Who said the following and why wasn't he suspended and there wasn't a great outcry:
South Africa has a "majority tyranny of lack rule""Tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles""The problem with (Africa) is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge anymore""Right, let's go and look at some more piccaninnies"
"Barack Obama is "part-Kenyan" and has an "ancestral" hatred of Britain“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostI posted a link about this earlier but for the hard of reading, here's a graphic:
It does not matter that Harold Shipman cared about his patients when he first started, what really matters, overriding everything else is that he killed lots of them in the end.
Historical truth is that Hitler build up roads, reduced unemployment, created stable economy, made big advanced in science - jet engines, nuclear research - all that might be true, but using it in context of "it somehow justifies evil done by him and Nazies in general" is exactly the Nazi apologist talk.Last edited by AtW; 30 April 2016, 13:43.Comment
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btw, I am totally for free speech - Nazi apologists got every right to say what they want, including conspiracy theories, truth, lies etc - it's just other people got the right to free speech also to call them Nazi apologists AND on the basis of this not to accept them into private clubs, parties etc - Ken is free to push his ideas to anybody who wants to listen.Comment
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