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Arbitrary deadlines, here we go again.

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    #11
    oh relax.

    All projects start with a wide degree of uncertainty. They don't all end that way.

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      #12
      Originally posted by GB9 View Post
      Speaking with my old delivery manager hat on, if you put the tasks into a schedule, added the effort and worked to the resulting date, nothing would ever get delivered.

      Young people these days......Bah. .....
      I've project managed a few developments and in the past when i was naive and tried to force developers to meet a deadline that was unrealistic, they would finish the work on the deadline date.

      But the work would be bug ridden and pretty piss poor. The client would then lack of confidence in the dev team etc...

      If you have committed people they will do a good job. Some truth in the saying it will be ready when it's ready.

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        #13
        Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
        oh relax.

        All projects start with a wide degree of uncertainty. They don't all end that way.
        You must be a project manager.

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          #14
          Originally posted by woohoo View Post
          I've project managed a few developments and in the past when i was naive and tried to force developers to meet a deadline that was unrealistic, they would finish the work on the deadline date.

          But the work would be bug ridden and pretty piss poor. The client would then lack of confidence in the dev team etc...

          If you have committed people they will do a good job. Some truth in the saying it will be ready when it's ready.
          I've worked to dev dates and still been given carp.

          By nature people build contingency into their own estimates. And the number of times I have heard the phrase "under promise, over deliver". Not a fat lot of use when you are part of a team!

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