Europe finished as an industrial and military region?

[BrilloPad]

Don't know about Europe but the UK is definitely finished as an industrial and military region.
In the case of steel, you can hardly blame Europe as the previous posts have shown.

I beg to differ with the right honourable member for upper cretindom.
If we can get rid of the leeches like yourself the UK can still punch above its weight.

[ZARDOZ]

Chinese steel is cheap, market forces blah blah blah


Ooops Chinese steel is tulip

The Mystery of the Brand-New Bay Bridge’s Corroded Steel | WIRED


http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-1...-steel/6949506

[sasguru]

I beg to differ with the right honourable member for upper cretindom.
If we can get rid of the leeches like yourself the UK can still punch above its weight.

If everyone was like me there would be no debt, self-reliance, constant self-improvement, no whining and an antipathy towards getting anything off the inefficient state whether it be healthcare or education or housing.
Oh and the average IQ would increase quite a bit.

[LondonManc]

Chinese steel is cheap, market forces blah blah blah


Ooops Chinese steel is tulip

The Mystery of the Brand-New Bay Bridge’s Corroded Steel | WIRED


Safety concerns over fabricated Chinese steel flooding Australian market - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Cheap steel in get what you pay for shocker?

Gidiot wants these people to build our nuclear reactors????

WE'RE DOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!

Brexit. Now. If for no other reason than to p*ss Gidiot off.

[darmstadt]

Brexit. Now. If for no other reason than to p*ss Gidiot off.

Didn't know that China was in the EU. Mind you if there is a Brexit, the UK can negotiate with Vanatu to build HS2 and the Congo to build off shore wind farms

[LondonManc]

Didn't know that China was in the EU. Mind you if there is a Brexit, the UK can negotiate with Vanatu to build HS2 and the Congo to build off shore wind farms

Or we can just do what the hell we want. Then again, a Gidexit would be better.

[FatLazyContractor]

If everyone was like me there would be no debt, self-reliance, constant self-improvement, no whining and an antipathy towards getting anything off the inefficient state whether it be healthcare or education or housing life.

FTFY

[sasguru]

FTFY

A bite. soooo easy

[DodgyAgent]

Yes Germany allows its Steel industry cheap electricity. The UK could do the same under EU rules. If that was the only problem they would have course done this, as Tata would have lobbied for it and the government would probably have agreed.

After a Brexit Britain will spend it's time trying to broker trade deals with all the strings attached. There will be loads of unwanted legislation being brought in to get deals with the EU, China, India and US.

and what happens if Scotland leaves the UK and remains in or joins the EU, so having left to close the border to the EU, we have a huge "hole" in the North, and the free border with Ireland.

There is absolutely no way a British government can close the border between the UK and Ireland without starting a civil war.

So even after a Brexit and huge barbed wire fences errected around Dover and Folkstone, EU citizens will be able to take a flight to Dublin or Glasgow and freely wander into Britain without a passport check.

The UK will not be able to stop the free movement of labour across the EU at all.
The change (like all change) will be uncomfortable but in the long run it will be worth it.

[darmstadt]

Even the Daily Telegraph: