Beware the March of IDS

[AtW]

The only solution to all this is a true socialist government. All the mess created by Tories need to be reversed and the poor need to be uplifted. The rich need to be taxed till about 85% and the benefits needs to go up massively, at least twice of what it is now.

They already are - 60%+ direct taxation, add VAT, duty, "premiums", levies and also taxes generated by their spending and you'd get very close to 105%

[AtW]

You really have developed what was a basic disagreement on \Tory policy into full blown chippy bigotry

Paid "after dinner speaking" for a politician is most certainly corruption in my book.

I do have basic (as in fundamental) disagreement with the "Tory party" - it's not Tory party at all, yet they defrauded me by pretending to be one.

[SueEllen]

Who?

Young male pro-Euro a*** licker who couldn't do his Welsh portfolio properly.

[SueEllen]

Paid after dinner speaking for a politician is most certainly corruption in my book.

I do have basic disagreement with the "Tory party" - it's not Tory party at all, yet they defrauded me by pretending to be one.

There is no opposition in the centre thanks to Millipede, Korbyn and Clegg so the Tories have moved more central.

[AtW]

What he should have said is "here's £53 go and live off that. If you cannot live off it go and earn more but don't expect the rest of us to stump up a living for you"

He should have STFU on the matter, but what he did say - "I could live on £53 per week" and when offered to try he refused - he should have been sacked right there and then.

[AtW]

There is no opposition in the centre thanks to Millipede, Korbyn and Clegg so the Tories have moved more central.

Yes and that should have meant that Tory party now should be Tory party squared, rather than becoming a piss poor copy of Bliars New Liabor.

[SueEllen]

He should have STFU on the matter, but what he did say - "I could live on £53 per week" and when offered to try he refused - he should have been sacked right there and then.

To be fair DWP is a poisoned chalice.

You have to be completely thick skinned like IDS to survive as any type of Minister in that department.

[AtW]

To be fair DWP is a poisoned chalice.

Nobody forced him to say he could live on £53 per week - he said it our of his own will and then made second mistake - refusing to even try to survive on that amount.

When I was a poor student in 1996 I certainly spent more than that - even not counting accommodation and I wasn't drinking alcohol/smoking, no cable/Sky TV, no internet/mobile either.

And now I am reading that he allegedly made his million by doing paid AFTER DINNER TALKING, FFS!

[SueEllen]

Nobody forced him to say he could live on £53 per week - he said it our of his own will and then made second mistake - refusing to even try to survive on that amount.

When I was a poor student in 1996 I certainly spent more than that - even not counting accommodation and I wasn't drinking alcohol/smoking, no cable/Sky TV, no internet/mobile either.

And now I am reading that he allegedly made his million by doing paid AFTER DINNER TALKING, FFS!

If you are on £53 a week your accommodation is paid for. You just need to pay all utility bills, buy food, clothes and transport.

[AtW]

If you are on £53 a week your accommodation is paid for. You just need to pay all utility bills, buy food, clothes and transport.

Oh only that...

My electric bill is around £200 per month, so there I am done - I can't live on 53 quid per week, but a posh Tory MP whose suit should be more expensive than all my cloth combined said he could ...

Granted he did the right thing to resign, but he should have done it long time ago, but better late than never