oh dear: Minister hints at pensions tax raid on middle-class savers

[AtW]

Depressing isn't it. I expect your figures are sadly right. For salary when in the 40% bracket £1 - 13.8 er NI = 87.87 2% er's NI, 40% IT = 50.96p retained.

The depressing part is that all this comes from supposedly Consevative majority Govt

[ZARDOZ]

Osborne and his metropolitan elite are moving into the ground once occupied by Blair and Brown. He is still spunking money on crap (debt increasing defecit not coming down) but his new target are the very people who put him in power. There is nothing to stop him, with an ineffective opposition which has lurched to the left it's a case of how hard do you want to be fecked.

[DimPrawn]

I am now 100% British mate - I whine a lot about things I don't like but do nothing about it ...

You're not truly British unless you claim benefits, are covered in tattoos, fight drunkenly in the local pub, and breed with orange faced chavettes.

[AtW]

You're not truly British unless you claim benefits, are covered in tattoos, fight drunkenly in the local pub, and breed with orange faced chavettes.

[bobspud]

You're not truly British unless you claim benefits, are covered in tattoos, fight drunkenly in the local pub, and breed with orange faced chavettes.

Where do I sign up?

[AtW]

There is nothing to stop him, with an ineffective opposition which has lurched to the left it's a case of how hard do you want to be fecked.

This does not make sense. What do you expect - Labour to offer tax cuts??? They'll just be keeping all tax increases made by Osborne and add some of theirs, that's not how two party system supposed to work - one should be tax cutting and the other tax increasing, now they both seem to be tax increasing. So what you gonna do - on your ******' knees... begging? I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing! So I say ****** that thing! Let's fight it!

[ZARDOZ]

This does not make sense. What do you expect - Labour to offer tax cuts??? They'll just be keeping all tax increases made by Osborne and add some of theirs, that's not how two party system supposed to work - one should be tax cutting and the other tax increasing, now they both seem to be tax increasing. So what you gonna do - on your ******' knees... begging? I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing! So I say ****** that thing! Let's fight it!

Do you not understand politics? If the opposition were more to the centre Osborne could not do as much.

[AtW]

Do you not understand politics? If the opposition were more to the centre Osborne could not do as much.

Osborne moved way past center right into Labour territory - he is gambling heavily on being able to buy cheaply many votes on their side than he would lose on Conservative side with increased taxes (Waldorks are expected to continue to vote for Cons again anyway).

The issue isn't Labour, you can't have expectations of them cutting taxes, the real issue is that Camoron and Gidiot turned Conservative party into Bliar/Brown Labour equivalent, at the wrong time too (for us).

[ZARDOZ]

Osborne moved way past center right into Labour territory - he is gambling heavily on being able to buy cheaply many votes on their side than he would lose on Conservative side with increased taxes (Waldorks are expected to continue to vote for Cons again anyway).

The issue isn't Labour, you can't have expectations of them cutting taxes, the real issue is that Camoron and Gidiot turned Conservative party into Bliar/Brown Labour equivalent, at the wrong time too (for us).

Part 1 yes (ish)

Part 2 I don't expect Labour to cut tax, but I would expect a Brown Blair type government to tax exactly like this, except their policies would be pleasing to some of the people who switched to Tory and therefore would be an electoral threat forcing Osborne to keep at least his demographic happy. Osborne is screwing the working and middle class and if you are a rural conservative you are especially screwed.

[AtW]

I would expect a Brown Blair type government to tax exactly like this

Camoron expressed his admiration for Bliar in the past, both him and Gidiot are piss poor versions of Bliar/Brown - at least the latter had common sense to actually appease their core voters rather than screw them over hoping that core voters of the other party would vote for them next time. Camoron/Gidiot defy logic in what they are doing, but since the whole Conservative party is more or less silent I treat it as them all being guilty

The "elites" of ConLibLab should be very afraid - their actions will end up in some populist leader that would cost them dearly - this is already happening in many countries, not just Greece, but also look at USA with Trump or other Western Europe states.