Ten Euro-myths debunked

[DodgyAgent]

The ultimate point is that it's a sideshow, there's no need for this referendum.

It is not a sideshow at all. It is responsible for the economies of Europe (not so much the UK) and it is responsible for migration. Neither of these things is it doing well yet both are very serious (the most serious) entities. There is every need for a referendum

[seanraaron]

It is not a sideshow at all. It is responsible for the economies of Europe (not so much the UK) and it is responsible for migration. Neither of these things is it doing well yet both are very serious (the most serious) entities. There is every need for a referendum

Because the only solutions to these problems is quitting the EU. I'm glad these important issues are attracting such meaningful debate.

[DodgyAgent]

Because the only solutions to these problems is quitting the EU. I'm glad these important issues are attracting such meaningful debate.

No it is about making our own decisions on how we deal with these problems. No one has said quitting the EU will solve these problems.

[MicrosoftBob]

No it is about making our own decisions on how we deal with these problems. No one has said quitting the EU will solve these problems.

Sort of, we'll be run by our unelected bureaucrats rather than the EUs unelected bureaucrats

[OwlHoot]

I read it.

Didn't mention the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of ex pats all over europe who may be on dodgy ground, and that it scuppers many peoples plans to do the same in the future.

WHat about the millions of UK ex-pats in the US, or Australia, or ... ?

They don't seem to be scuppered, or in any immediate danger of it.

[OwlHoot]

The relationship with the EU isn't all about money and the arrest warrant thing isn't as remotely concerning as the non-reciprocal extradition treaty Blair signed with the United States. Why people aren't protesting to their MPs about that to this day is beyond me. ..

Fair point about the extradition treaty with the US.

But the EU arrest warrant is bad enough - Some poor sod was extradited from the UK to Greece, where he spent several months in prison awaiting trial for (I think) espionage, having been spotted taking photos near a airbase while on holiday in Greece. He was later (_much_ later!) released without charge.

[VectraMan]

WHat about the millions of UK ex-pats in the US, or Australia, or ... ?

They don't seem to be scuppered, or in any immediate danger of it.

All those people jumped through lots of hoops and paper work to get the right to stay. Not sure how it works exactly, but presumably not all are permanent; some still live under threat of being kicked out of their home country. That can't be a good way to live.

After a Brexit all the UK EU expats will be uncertain of their status at best.

[DodgyAgent]

Sort of, we'll be run by our unelected bureaucrats rather than the EUs unelected bureaucrats

The old whine that ours is not a proper democracy does not invalidate the system of government that we have.

We have a functioning democracy that is easy to pick holes in. it is also our democracy and we are at least ruled by our bureaucrats. At least if we don't like them we can go and drag them out of their places of work and lynch them without having to cross the channel or step on aircraft.

[darmstadt]

WHat about the millions of UK ex-pats in the US, or Australia, or ... ?

They don't seem to be scuppered, or in any immediate danger of it.

A reasonable article: EU Law Analysis: What happens to British expatriates if the UK leaves the EU?

[darmstadt]

Sort of, we'll be run by our unelected bureaucrats rather than the EUs unelected bureaucrats

Oooh, that old chestnut myth again