oh dear (tm): Millions face 'retirement crisis' over pensions tax raid

[AtW]

38p in the Pound. How the fook is that fair?

"Unfair to payor but not to payee. But you're gonna pay it, or else!"

[OwlHoot]

AtW's comment is spot on.

Gideon is a genius. He and his Tory chums are doing their very best to shaft many of the very people they expect to vote for them - the middle classes are seen as an easy target.

All this money grubbing is solely in a futile effort to fulfil is promise to eliminate the deficit by the next election.

So to achieve some self-declared goal that few people really give a stuff about, he is upsetting a large proportion of natural Tory voters.

Genius!

[AtW]

All this money grubbing is solely in a futile effort to fulfil is promise to eliminate the deficit by the next election.
So to achieve some self-declared goal that few people really give a stuff about, he is upsetting a large proportion of natural Tory voters.
Genius!

Aye!

It was a correct goal, but making timing such so that Gidiot gets elected was the idiotic thing to do - no way he will get elected even if he hits that goal by 2020, which is highly unlikely.

His mandate was to cut spending, not to increase taxes - which he had already done in 2010.

Labour landslide will happen in 2020 - with or without Komrade Korbyn.

[jamesbrown]

Labour landslide will happen in 2020 - with or without Komrade Korbyn.

[OwlHoot]

People who scoff at the possibility of Corbyn winning are making the classic egotistical mistake of assuming everyone thinks the way they do.

[AtW]

In 2020 even Waldorf will vote for Korbyn, remember this post ...

[jamesbrown]

People who scoff at the possibility of Corbyn winning are making the classic egotistical mistake of assuming everyone thinks the way they do.

Scoff. People who assign a serious probability to a Corbyn victory are making the classic, egotistical, mistake of assuming a majority could be persuaded to their radical point of view. Anything is possible, but this particular possibility is extremely unlikely.

[AtW]

Scoff. People who assign a serious probability to a Corbyn victory are making the classic, egotistical, mistake of assuming a majority could be persuaded to their radical point of view. Anything is possible, but this particular possibility is extremely unlikely.

Look it's simple.

1. SNP will keep Scotland and form coalition Govt with Korbyn - for the good of the country of course, that's +54 votes in a pocket, so 284 vs 330 cons.

2. Korbyn will only need a relatively small shift of votes to Labour to form coalition Govt - just 25 extra will do.

And if it's not Korbyn, it will be somewhere - even Thatcher put in charge of Labour party would win next elections for Labour (in coalition with SNP).

Conservatives will be out for next 15-20 years.

[jamesbrown]

Look it's simple.

1. SNP will keep Scotland and form coalition Govt with Korbyn - for the good of the country of course, that's +54 votes in a pocket, so 284 vs 330 cons.

2. Korbyn will only need a relatively small shift of votes to Labour to form coalition Govt - just 25 extra will do.

And if it's not Korbyn, it will be somewhere - even Thatcher put in charge of Labour party would win next elections for Labour (in coalition with SNP).

Conservatives will be out for next 15-20 years.

Expect Project Fear on steroids. It worked last time, and it'll work even better next time with Corbyn somewhere to the left of Millipede. With the boundary changes (probably good for +20-30 for the Tories) and other cynical shifts in party funding that will hollow-out the Labour party in favour the Tories, they will have an in-built majority. Even if the economy tanks, Labour won't be trusted. The average voter expects a minimum level of coherence on defence and the economy and Labour have literally no coherence on either. A lot can happen in 5 years, but with the parliamentary party completely split from the front bench and grassroots, and no chance of Corbyn being voted out (esp. after Labour conference), Labour have as close to feck all chance of winning in 2020 as is conceivable.

[jamesbrown]

Also, to state the bleeding obvious, if you think you'd be better off with Corbyn (you seem to complain a lot about dividend taxation, stamp duty changes, pension taxation etc.), you need to put down the bong.