Out Of The Mouths Of Clients

[DimPrawn]

If ATC were business systems, to which Agile is often employed, the requirements would change from "Aircraft must never be allowed crash under any circumstances" to "Crashing is mandatory where this is seen to improve the bottom line".

[MrMarkyMark]

So, does Suity actually know anything or........

[DimPrawn]

So, does Suity actually know anything or........

[SpontaneousOrder]

I never heard of anyone needing a design to test before.

[suityou01]

Pompous twaddle ...

I needed a laugh, so thanks.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I needed a laugh, so thanks.

Not sure that pompous means what you think it does.

[DimPrawn]

I never heard of anyone needing a design to test before.

I was under the impression you needed to know WHAT something is supposed to do in order to test it, not HOW it is designed, so yes, what's the design got to do with testing?

[Cirrus]

Chill out, for goodness sake!

Being older than you lads, I was doing agile before it was called agile (approx 2001 AD). It was then called RAD.

I built RAD systems for eg BP and Shell. There was never any 'design'. If you'd asked me about such a thing then, we'd have had to go down the pub to mull over the consequences of such a new and fangled concept.

The Business told you what they wanted to achieve and you built them a system.

When I go out shopping on a Saturday I don't have a plan. Or a design document.

You young people are so bureaucratic I just can't get over it.

[northernladuk]

Being older than you lads

That could explain a lot. I was going to go sockie hunting to try and explain most of the stuff you post but that may not be the reason.

[darmstadt]

Being older than you lads, I was doing agile before it was called agile (approx 2001 AD). It was then called RAD.

Being even older, I've seen these fads come and go, given different names for the same bollocks, I've learnt to ignore them all and it doesn't seem to have hurt