Apparently Erdogan moved the border, so it was in Turkish airspace. A bit like Russia did with Crimea...
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Turkey Downs Russian Jet
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Anyone else thinking that Thanksgiving was gonna get a bit feisty this year?
Just me then
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The might not be any turkey for thanksgiving this year...Originally posted by SimonMac View PostAnyone else thinking that Thanksgiving was gonna get a bit feisty this year?
Just me then

Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.Comment
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Best headlines in the days to come?Originally posted by SimonMac View PostAnyone else thinking that Thanksgiving was gonna get a bit feisty this year?
Just me then

Putin to cook Turkey?The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Put in had this coming. He's been taking the pee for a while. Can't believe this latest fly over Turkish territory was also accidental.
Can't believe how easy it was to shoot down too. Doesn't bode well for extremely outdated Russian aircraft.Comment
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They use consumer grade SatNav too in the cockpits! Garmin type, gaffa taped to the airframe. I've have a pic somewhere.Originally posted by GB9 View PostPut in had this coming. He's been taking the pee for a while. Can't believe this latest fly over Turkish territory was also accidental.
Can't believe how easy it was to shoot down too. Doesn't bode well for extremely outdated Russian aircraft.
Anyway, the Turkmens have apparently murdered the two pilots....Comment
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If the Russians could prove the plane was in Syrian airspace they would, rather than just claiming it.
The Turks are busy publishing radar data and images backing up their side of the story. If they have cockpit footage / voice recordings they'll appear in due course as well for a guess.
There is no milage in it for the Turks in attacking a Russian plane other than it being in their airspace after repeatedly warning the Russians about violations.
Putin has other things to worry about at the moment, like turning the lights back on in Crimea and dealing with domestic industrial unrest, rather than looking for a confrontation with NATO.
He'll bluster and grandstand over it but ultimately nothing will come of it. Saving face over this is the least of his worries."Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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Could be quite uncomfortable for a lot of Russians, I'm thinking about the fat greedy uncivilised ******* all on holiday there now. Turkey is a big draw for Russian holidaymakers now and are quite unliked by both the native people and other holidaymakers, i.e. Russians snatch 'worst tourists' crown from Germans... even hiding sunloungers in their ROOMS | Daily Mail Online“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Anything to divert attention from his support of ISISOriginally posted by stek View PostApparently Erdogan moved the border, so it was in Turkish airspace. A bit like Russia did with Crimea...Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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