The Great British Steel Industry

[EternalOptimist]

you do realise that is 32 fahrenheit which could be construed as an increase somewhere and its 273 kelvin which is a big number

This winter, when your b*llocks are two lumps on either side of yer neck, you will be so grateful that we avoided that 0.00 degrees of warming by sacrificing x,000 jobs.

[minestrone]

There never was a great steel industry in Britain,

China now is fecked with 300% debt to gdp.

[SueEllen]

How is it possible for a single company to control like 80% of the market of streel in UK? And they have other plants around the world so conflict of interest - big desire to shutdown competition blaming high costs.

The reason to have plants in different countries is so your goods count as being from that country.

However if most of the world including that country and its trading partners are happy to have steel, coal etc from countries with dangerous H&S records, few workers rights, a poor environmental record and much cheaper energy prices (thanks Milliband) as its cheaper then there is no point. F*** even Germany has cheaper energy prices than the UK (thanks Milliband).

The real problem comes in 20 years when those countries workers get more expensive and they realise they don't want a screwed environment in their country pushing the prices up. (Though they will still have cheaper electricity prices as they won't have a Milliband as energy minister who has no clue about basic manufacturing economics.)

[BlasterBates]

Germany has cheaper wholesale prices because they're subsidised by the private consumer. An electricity bill for the private consumer is far cheaper in the UK.

Basically the more green technology the more expensive it is for the consumer but the cheaper the wholesale price simply is because the producers are given money through a different channel.

The cheaper wholesale prices are an illusion.

[Sysman]

what on earth is a climate change denier ?

It's a linguistic device used by cretins to infer that anyone who disagrees with them is in the same camp as holocaust deniers.

[EternalOptimist]

It's a linguistic device used by cretins to infer that anyone who disagrees with them is in the same camp as holocaust deniers.

ahh, got it.

lefties messing around with the language again ?

In the olden days, science was all about proposing an hypothesis and then inviting people to falsify it.
Nowadays, with these people, it seems to be about proposing a hypothesis then shutting down any debate.
History will not be kind to these people

[AtW]

The reason to have plants in different countries is so your goods count as being from that country.

How is it possible 90% of production IN A SINGLE country is controlled by a single company, Tata???

[darmstadt]

Still going strong actually (and from Birmingham):