RFC - Contract Roles that involve managing perm staff

[rl4engc]

I can't see a problem if you're being brought in as a Consultant, and part of that Consultant role is to manage the technical/PM side of what the permies doing the leg work are doing.

On a personal level I'd only do it if you know you are good at it, as any Permies won't take kindly to having to answer to someone who clearly is less competent and on 3x more money than they are, will lead to all sorts of back stabbing and office politics and that tulipe is way best avoided.

[DodgyAgent]

I sniff a complete lack of reality here.

Putting a genuine contractor in a line management position is good for absolutely nobody and of course the contractual arrangements matter - permies are meant to embed in and thrive within an organisation, contractors are not.

Oh dear. Here we have an idiot stuck in the dark ages of Jobsworths hierarchies and management structures, or we have a contractor that does not like to take any form of responsibility.

Workers are there to get things done provided the leadership is there it does not matter what the contractual arrangement is between worker and employer

[LondonManc]

If you're brought in to deliver a project, you'll need to manage resources. It shouldn't impact IR35 whether the resources are perm, contract, consultancy or supplier.

BAU Line management puts you at risk of direction and control due to line management duties and methods, by leaving you open to be "line-managed".

[kaiser78]

If you are talking about managing workload and focus then it could be OK. A PM will manage a set of tasks and allocate to perm staff in a matrix type application but not day to day 'line' management then this could be acceptable... and will probably be required for many more senior roles or organisation type roles e.g. PM.

This is what I do in my current role.

[MPwannadecentincome]

They are, but good luck to them being outside IR35 when HMR&C stomp all over their tax affairs...

hmm I must look into this with people I know who are "interim" CIOs and IT Directors which carries line management responsibility for the whole IT department.