10 dead in Yet Another US Shooting....

[SpontaneousOrder]

yeah cuz teenage hormones and a 9mm are such a good mix.

Although, looking at the facts in the particular case, it looks as though the nutcase deliberately chose a gun-free campus. Much like the Batman killer who drove a log way out of his way to find a gun free cinema.

So it's likely in this particular case that it would have helped. No doubt if Chris Mintz had a pistol on him, he would have taken out the killer early on, instead of getting shot 5 times trying to tackle him.

I'd settle for armed, trained, security & a drilled students/faculty.

[Intel]

Total lunatics in the states. I've only ever been once (for professional reasons) and I'll never go again, regardless of the rate or gig on offer.

Australia managed it.... 19 Years After Passing Strict Gun Control Laws, Here's What Happened in Australia - Mic

[SueEllen]

Curious that you said 'transit' directly in response to my question specifically about airports.

Anyway, Have there been lots of mass shootings in parking lots?



So like Raoul Moat?
And the other two incidents in places with strict gun control?

I'm not sure how parity when it comes to random murders, between strict and loose gin control countries, say anything abut whether armed security should be present at places vulnerable to mass shootings.



You said that those places were specifically magnets for nutters. I think it's pretty safe to label a mass shooter of strangers as a nutter.

Anyway, almost ALL of them (the mass shooters in last few decades) were on SSRIs - which are well known to be linked to psychotic episodes in young people especially. Big pharma are in pulling govs strings though, of course.

There are lots of shootings in parking lots in the states. Most are a couple of people but there are plenty were more than 5 people are killed. As it mainly involves adults or those in gangs it's not particularly internationally newsworthy.

You seem to clearly prefer the fact a teenager can blame being on medication as an excuse for killing and maiming people rather than the teenager decided to do a bad act.

Well the UK does have a parallel with the States on teenage acts of violence - we have a lot of knife crime.

Teenagers will use any weapon they can get their hands on to kill or injury people for reasons that are illogical to most mature adults. However you can only stab a one or two people with a knife, broken bottle, etc but can kill and maim more people with a gun.

[Flashman]

Total lunatics in the states. I've only ever been once (for professional reasons) and I'll never go again, regardless of the rate or gig on offer.

Australia managed it.... 19 Years After Passing Strict Gun Control Laws, Here's What Happened in Australia - Mic

Been a few times here. really wouldn't worry about it. The Americans being a practical people have their criminals live in ghetto's where they can shoot each other all the time and not bother the nice people. Its a bit like Manchester really.

[NotAllThere]

...That's bizarre.

Q.E.D.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Australia managed it.... 19 Years After Passing Strict Gun Control Laws, Here's What Happened in Australia - Mic

Managed what? The introduction of those gun controls had no effect on the homicide rate in Australia.

Violent crime & robber actually increased.

You seem to clearly prefer the fact a teenager can blame being on medication as an excuse for killing and maiming people rather than the teenager decided to do a bad act.

No - I certainly don't and have never implied so.
BUT... we are talking about the cause of these killings, and while people are quick to pin it on guns, they seem to ignore the fact that in the states there is a very real problem of over-medication and one that involves putting kids of psychotropic drugs linked to rage & psychopathy.

I could get hold of a gun relatively easily, given a week or so, here in the UK. Even easier when I was younger. So to suppose that banning the sale of firearms in a country containing millions of them already, bordering Mexico, will prevent psychotic teenagers from killing scores of people at a time is absurd.

However you can only stab a one or two people with a knife, broken bottle, etc but can kill and maim more people with a gun.

You obviously missed all of the school mass-stabbings in China recently.

[darmstadt]

[greenlake]

Pastor on telly suggesting that the students should have been armed.

Boy, 11, Reportedly Shoots Dead 8-Year-Old Neighbor After She Said He Couldn't See Her Puppy - Inside Edition

[TykeMerc]

Boy, 11, Reportedly Shoots Dead 8-Year-Old Neighbor After She Said He Couldn't See Her Puppy - Inside Edition

I've seen the story, it boggles the mind that a parent is so damn stupid to allow a child unsupervised access to a 12 bore and ammunition.

[NotAllThere]

But it couldn't have happened if the puppy had been armed.