Why we MUST ditch our lazy attitude to finding work through agents and agencies

[meridian]

HMRC might consider us to be under SD&C if we work via agencies, but it will be case law that ultimately decides if this is the case (ie working practices), so unless they write very tight legislation then it will likely go the same way as the existing IR35 laws, a big roar at the start and then failing in court.

[darmstadt]

Hands up who voted Tory

[GlenW]

Hands up who voted Tory

[Tasslehoff]

Pretty worried by this to be honest.

I think this would be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of contractors. I commute locally because of a young family but this will really screw the "stay away" crowd.

Do we think this is something we can litigate against like IR35 or are we screwed?

[VectraMan]

Pretty worried by this to be honest.

I think this would be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of contractors. I commute locally because of a young family but this will really screw the "stay away" crowd.

Do we think this is something we can litigate against like IR35 or are we screwed?

If you can earn double a permie's gross as a contractor how can it not still be worth being a contractor even paying the same rate of tax as everyone else?

You're only really getting back 20% of expenses as things stand now, so is having to pay that 20% of a B&B bill really going to "screw the 'stay away' crowd"?

[LondonManc]

If you can earn double a permie's gross as a contractor how can it not still be worth being a contractor even paying the same rate of tax as everyone else?

You're only really getting back 20% of expenses as things stand now, so is having to pay that 20% of a B&B bill really going to "screw the 'stay away' crowd"?

Increase in flat-sharing, simple as that.

[NibblyPig]

It's gonna hurt all those places in the arse end of nowhere, that's for sure, of which there seem to be many.

Good luck hiring a contractor in Aeahgheghhehghe, Wales, 20 miles off the M4 over the hills and far away.

Or Swindon, where nobody wants to live (or if we're honest, visit)

[aoxomoxoa]

It's gonna hurt all those places in the arse end of nowhere, that's for sure, of which there seem to be many.

Good luck hiring a contractor in Aeahgheghhehghe, Wales, 20 miles off the M4 over the hills and far away.

Or Swindon, where nobody wants to live (or if we're honest, visit)

They can always get Psychocandy

[TestMangler]

If you can earn double a permie's gross as a contractor how can it not still be worth being a contractor even paying the same rate of tax as everyone else?

You're only really getting back 20% of expenses as things stand now, so is having to pay that 20% of a B&B bill really going to "screw the 'stay away' crowd"?

Think you're missing at least half of the picture here.

[centurian]

HMRC might consider us to be under SD&C if we work via agencies, but it will be case law that ultimately decides if this is the case (ie working practices), so unless they write very tight legislation then it will likely go the same way as the existing IR35 laws, a big roar at the start and then failing in court.

That's just it - they are changing the law, or at least that's what a grim interpretation of the proposals believes will happen. So previous case law is irrelevant.