Skills shortages

[pr1]

I have also worked with a client that used Eastern Europeans based on this business model. Basically buy a very rundown B&B and fill it with IT workers, charge them a small fee to live there out of their wages, charge the client for IT services onsite.

Very profitable for the bodyshopper.

Great if we all want to live like this and compete.

who should pay you the difference? a centre/right winged BigCo-focussed uk government? good luck

[MrMarkyMark]

if an employer can afford to fly someone over and pay for them to live somewhere, plus the cost of their labour - for less than you're willing to work for, you're either overcharging or are underskilled

demand and supply equilibrates itself

Absolute tosh .
As I said the quality is often not the same, therfore the cost should not be the same.

Would you be happy to work for £30 PD, actually, second thoughts, maybe you are only worth that.

[VectraMan]

Would you work for £30 a day plus a shared room in a squat ?

It's better than JSA.

[pr1]

Absolute tosh .
As I said the quality is often not the same, therfore the cost should not be the same.

Would you be happy to work for £30 PD, actually, second thoughts, maybe you are only worth that.

if it's tosh why are lots of companies doing it? if you can be replaced by a non-native-english-speaking/lowskilled foreign worker, maybe you're the one not worth as much as you think?

[MrMarkyMark]

It's better than JSA.

Not sure exactly how much that is, but I'm sure someone does on here

[VectraMan]

if it's tosh why are lots of companies doing it? if you can be replaced by a non-native-english-speaking/lowskilled foreign worker, maybe you're the one not worth as much as you think?

Indeed. I'm being replaced by an American who probably costs more than me.

Not sure what that says.

[MrMarkyMark]

if it's tosh why are lots of companies doing it?

1) Because its cheap.
2) Because it carries a big bonus for the implementer for "saving" the money.

if you can be replaced by a non-native-english-speaking/lowskilled foreign worker, maybe you're the one not worth as much as you think?

I didn't say I could.
I've been doing this for 14 years and my rate has steadily increased over that time.

Suggest you try again

[VectraMan]

If the foreign workers really aren't up to it, then the demand will increase (need more people to get it done), or those companies will fail being replaced by others smart enough not to employ incompetent workers just because they're cheap.

Supply and demand, innit.

[pr1]

1) Because its cheap.
2) Because it carries a big bonus for the implementer for "saving" the money.


I didn't say I could.
I've been doing this for 14 years and my rate has steadily increased over that time.

Suggest you try again

i wasn't implying "you" personally (i'm not as petty as you)

more generally, if "anyone" can be replaced by lowskilled/foreign/non-english-speaking person, "they" aren't worth as much as they think

[LondonManc]

The biggest problem with the UK job market seems to be that there is an acceptance that permies are of different levels of experience/quality for the same role but that contractors are assumed to all be a similar calibre.