Jeremy Corbyn announces £10bn plan to scrap university tuition fees

[unixman]

Shandy? Oh come on they are not that bad. It's lager top all the way for those lads.

[unixman]

Totally off topic, and not many people noticed it, but the Tories have ensured they won't get a single vote in northern England in 2020. After the 2015 votes were in, the immediately announced all plans for a high speed HS3 northern rail line would be scrapped. "Northern Powerhouse" got them some northern votes this time, even mentioned in the Queens speech. Then flushed down a chemical toilet at Conservative HQ.

On topic yeah obviously Corbyn is Michel Foot and great for every party but Labour. I thought they would have progressed to a Neil Kinnock stage by now. But no, their Kinnock is still to come, and after that a candidate people can actually vote for in 2025, which will probably be a Kendalite or David Milliband.

Oh and Labour are now even more metropolitan, London centric and out of touch than the Conservatives are. At least the Tories have seen a tree.

[PurpleGorilla]

Yes simply because it has a huge money tree that few other countries have. It does not have to support a population made up of ethnically diverse people.

We used to have a lot of gold and oil. Companies and plutocratic elite made rich by it; but not the country. Hate to bang on about it, but the boomers have been a plague of locusts on this countries assets. As for ethnic diversity support - seems reasonable to me after slavery and the asset stripping British Empire.

[DimPrawn]

Yes simply because it has a huge money tree that few other countries have. It does not have to support a population made up of ethnically diverse people.

Indeed, Norway is about 5m people. Population of London alone is over 8m people, population of UK is approaching 70m.

We have to support a huge number of people. If you removed 95% of the UK population and shared the wealth of the nation, we'd all be living like kings.

[PurpleGorilla]

This sums it up for me:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...orwegians-fund

[DimPrawn]

This sums it up for me:

Dude, where's my North Sea oil money? | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | The Guardian

We can't be like the Norwegians, not with our unproductive and debt laden economy coupled with a huge and growing (immigrant driven) population growth.

More immigrants arrive in the UK every year than the whole of Norway has as a total immigrant population.

[MicrosoftBob]

Indeed, Norway is about 5m people. Population of London alone is over 8m people, population of UK is approaching 70m.

We have to support a huge number of people. If you removed 95% of the UK population and shared the wealth of the nation, we'd all be living like kings.

You've watched Utopia then

[DimPrawn]

If you want to live in a country like Norway, the simplest way of achieving this is to relocate/emigrate to Norway. Simples.

[d000hg]

We can't be like the Norwegians, not with our unproductive and debt laden economy coupled with a huge and growing (immigrant driven) population growth.

More immigrants arrive in the UK every year than the whole of Norway has as a total immigrant population.

Better to work in relative growth, not absolute. Saying there's more people so they can't all be as rich belies that money is created BY the population.... the UK has a much higher GDP than Norway.
As it happens GDP per capita IS higher in Norway than the UK so I think you stumbled into a correct answer by mistake

[PurpleGorilla]

We can't be like the Norwegians, not with our unproductive and debt laden economy coupled with a huge and growing (immigrant driven) population growth.

More immigrants arrive in the UK every year than the whole of Norway has as a total immigrant population.

It is debt ladened because the plutocracy have not paid their share. Rich aristocracy, bankers, and corporate institutions - I don't want to destroy them - but they pay less than they could and should.

It is unproductive because there is a lack of pride and work ethic in the benefit spongers side of society. Give them to me, and I would have them fixing pot holes etc. work, education, or national service; but no free ticket. A real lack of vision as to where we are heading in the uk is a problem. There is no go to the moon. We need that, and people need to think they are working towards that. Today's youngsters, all they see is debt debt debt debt debt debt debt. Well that's a real inspiration and motivator!

I don't know the solution to migrants; but we are not alone in that problem.