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    #11
    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    So you think that Gordon shouldn't have sold off the gold? I suppose he could have sold off a few public bodies instead although you tell me a public body which has been privatised which is (a) either doing very well or (b) isn't getting government subsidies?
    British Petroleum October 1979
    British Aerospace February 1981
    Cable & Wireless October 1981
    Amersham International February 1982
    National Freight Corporation February 1982
    Britoil November 1982
    Associated British Ports February 1983
    Enterprise Oil July 1984
    Jaguar August 1984
    British Telecommunications December 1984
    British Shipbuilders 1985 onwards
    British Gas December 1986
    British Airways February 1987
    Rolls-Royce May 1987
    BAA July 1987
    British Steel December 1988
    Water December 1989
    Electricity 1990

    Some of the industries are subsidised and some are monopolies but no one can possibly argue that the public would have been better served had they remained in state control. And let us also remember that once these companies were launched into the world of free markets where they had to compete this event sparked the huge growth in IT contractors
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #12
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      British Petroleum October 1979
      British Aerospace February 1981
      Cable & Wireless October 1981
      Amersham International February 1982
      National Freight Corporation February 1982
      Britoil November 1982
      Associated British Ports February 1983
      Enterprise Oil July 1984
      Jaguar August 1984
      British Telecommunications December 1984
      British Shipbuilders 1985 onwards
      British Gas December 1986
      British Airways February 1987
      Rolls-Royce May 1987
      BAA July 1987
      British Steel December 1988
      Water December 1989
      Electricity 1990

      Some of the industries are subsidised and some are monopolies but no one can possibly argue that the public would have been better served had they remained in state control. And let us also remember that once these companies were launched into the world of free markets where they had to compete this event sparked the huge growth in IT contractors
      Plus most of the ones receiving subsidies aren't privatised. You can't grant a monopoly (even if it's a franchise which only lasts X number of years at a time), or partially publicly fund said body, and still call it privatised in any meaningful sense of the word.

      Private means subject to the 'invisible hand' and all that that entails in with regards to promoting productivity, efficiency, and value to the consumer market. Granting monopolies and subsidizing ruins all of those things.

      Admitedly some things would be tricky to privatise. Although much of that is due to regulation in it's many forms anyway.

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        #13
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        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        British Petroleum October 1979
        British Aerospace February 1981
        Cable & Wireless October 1981
        Amersham International February 1982
        National Freight Corporation February 1982
        Britoil November 1982
        Associated British Ports February 1983
        Enterprise Oil July 1984
        Jaguar August 1984
        British Telecommunications December 1984
        British Shipbuilders 1985 onwards
        British Gas December 1986
        British Airways February 1987
        Rolls-Royce May 1987
        BAA July 1987
        British Steel December 1988
        Water December 1989
        Electricity 1990

        Some of the industries are subsidised and some are monopolies but no one can possibly argue that the public would have been better served had they remained in state control. And let us also remember that once these companies were launched into the world of free markets where they had to compete this event sparked the huge growth in IT contractors
        Mainly because of the very lucky coincidence that the technology revolution delivered. Had it not been for technology, there would have been a far smaller contractor boom and I doubt any of those companies would have had an easy ride, some falling straight back into public ownership. I had contracts spanning 10 years during that period within privatised utilities and transportation. With the exception of transportation, the rest were cesspits of incompetence and as far as the human factor goes and given the press since, wherever humans are involved, nothing has changed.

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          #14
          Originally posted by tractor View Post
          Mainly because of the very lucky coincidence that the technology revolution delivered. Had it not been for technology, there would have been a far smaller contractor boom and I doubt any of those companies would have had an easy ride, some falling straight back into public ownership. I had contracts spanning 10 years during that period within privatised utilities and transportation. With the exception of transportation, the rest were cesspits of incompetence and as far as the human factor goes and given the press since, wherever humans are involved, nothing has changed.
          If they had not been privatised they would not have invested in technology. It is nothing to do with luck it is to do with markets.
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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