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Originally posted by MercladUK View Postfast forward 10/15 years
Wales - independence & Bankrupt
Scotland - independence & Bankrupt
England - Independence & prosperous
We learn that public debt in the rich economies fell from 124pc of GDP at the end of Second World War to 29pc in 1973, a dream era that we have left behind.
The debt burden has since climbed at a compound rate of 2pc a year, accelerating into an upward spiral to 105pc of GDP after the Lehman crash. It is as if we had fought another world war.
So we are all suffed.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostCaveat creditor as IMF chiefs mull unpayable debts - Telegraph
We learn that public debt in the rich economies fell from 124pc of GDP at the end of Second World War to 29pc in 1973, a dream era that we have left behind.
The debt burden has since climbed at a compound rate of 2pc a year, accelerating into an upward spiral to 105pc of GDP after the Lehman crash. It is as if we had fought another world war.
So we are all suffed.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostThat's a good point, but I think people probably accept that FPTP means it's the number of seats that count. My point was that with people having to be encouraged to register, and the general disillusionment with politics, it's not going to be good if it appears that the government is chosen by a back room deal between the political elite rather than by the election result, no matter what the law says and the reality of the situation.
Note that Clegg says that the Lib Dems will talk to "the biggest party first" without clarifying which he actually means to give a bit more wriggle room. Bless him, he still thinks he's going to be relevant by the middle of May.
This government was chosen by a back room deal rather than the election result, though - that's part of the problem with coalitions. No party ever says "this is what we'd give away to form a coalition", so no one ever votes for what a coalition ends up offering.Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostIf the Queen Speech is voted down, you can be damned sure a vote of no confidence would follow in very short order.
A vote of no confidence doesn't even guarantee a new election - everyone gets another 14 days to see if they can form a new government, which (as I said earlier) could mean that you flip from one side of the house to the other until the next vote of no confidence and then come back. Would the electorate reward the opposition for trying to sneak in that way without an election?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostIf the Queen Speech is voted down, you can be damned sure a vote of no confidence would follow in very short order.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostIf the party trying to form the government can't get their Queen's Speech voted through then they can't form the government. There is no need for a vote of confidence.
So you can fail to pass the budget or the Queen's speech, but you still require a separate vote of no confidence.Comment
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For all his fat uselessness Salmond was fairly pro business, Sturgeon however is the worst of both the socialist worlds, the working class chip on the shoulder socialist and the educated 'it all looks wonderful on paper' socialist.
I am hoping whatever foul offspring Ed and Sturgeon produce dies quickly before it can do permanent damage to the country.Last edited by minestrone; 21 April 2015, 07:06.Comment
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Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View PostLabour won't die in England, as their core vote is chavs, immigrants and thickos they won't be running out of voters anytime soon, even if some of them have joined UKIP
Originally posted by TestMangler View PostI don't think that is as impossible as some might think, although it could kill off one of them for good.
Labour have already lost Scotland with their partnership with the Tories in 'Better Together' so a Tory/labour coalition might kill them off in England too, except for England's inability to actually vote a government inOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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pretty much a statement of the petty mindedness of todays people.
negative voting to stop someone winning rather than pinning your colours to the mast to try and help your party win.
Lets face it you have Labour who are probably slightly left of centre if not centre and Tories who are slightly right of centre.
Not a lot to choose from except that Dave seems to be a better leader the Ed - in fact Ed is just a bit too weird!
Your views may vary!Comment
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