Good riddance of the week

[Zigenare]

I find this baffling.

I’m an Irish citizen, and have a right to live and work in the UK under the CTA.

You seem to be advocating that [i]your[/] ability to live and work here is not a right, but a privilege that can be taken away at any time.

You’re advocating that I have more rights than you?

Truly baffling.

Take this a step further. Let’s say that the precedent is set that the Home Office minister can unilaterally remove British citizenship. Let’s then say that the next government is a hard left Corbin socialist government. You’ve now given them the legal power to remove citizenship unilaterally?

You give away your rights too easily.

There is more to "Citizenship" than the right to live and work here. The subject of this topic has dual nationality, we're attempting to take one of those away.

[meridian]

There is more to "Citizenship" than the right to live and work here.

Perhaps, but according to you, you don’t have that right at all.

[malvolio]

Assuming she is not a dual national, doesn’t it concern you that a Home Secretary can unilaterally remove British citizenship from someone?

Apparently she has dual nationality, or, to be precise, a single nationality now, being a Bangladeshi on her mother's side. Under international law you can't make someone stateless, but we haven't. Tant pis, as the French would say...

[Zigenare]

Perhaps, but according to you, you don’t have that right at all.

If I had been granted British Citizenship and I did something dire enough that one of the punishments would be the revoking of that right then what would you expect to happen?

Let's ask AtW, he's passed the Citizenship test, ask him if his Citizenship can be revoked.

[meridian]

If I had been granted British Citizenship and I did something dire enough that one of the punishments would be the revoking of that right then what would you expect to happen?

Let's ask AtW, he's passed the Citizenship test, ask him if his Citizenship can be revoked.

Apples and oranges, I’m not disputing that someone granted British citizenship (if they do not also revoke their dual citizenship) can have their British citizenship removed. That’s reasonably clear in the legislation.

You haven’t been granted UK citizenship, it was conferred upon you as a right at birth.

[Zigenare]

Apples and oranges, I’m not disputing that someone granted British citizenship (if they do not also revoke their dual citizenship) can have their British citizenship removed. That’s reasonably clear in the legislation.

You haven’t been granted UK citizenship, it was conferred upon you as a right at birth.

So, it can't be removed.

Apologies, I answered your original question in the context of the OP.

You seem to be advocating that [i]your[/] ability to live and work here is not a right, but a privilege that can be taken away at any time.

Now I see what was wrong, you meant to put "your" in italics - referring specifically to me.

As far as I'm concerned, your question is irrelevant - should've been my answer.

[meridian]

Apparently she has dual nationality, or, to be precise, a single nationality now, being a Bangladeshi on her mother's side. Under international law you can't make someone stateless, but we haven't. Tant pis, as the French would say...

It’s certainly starting to look that way. Bangladeshi law apparently confers automatic nationality if you are born to a parent from there, but if you don’t officially register that citizenship by the age of 21 then it’s removed.

It looks on the face of it that she’s two years too early, and that she still retains that right to Bangladeshi citizenship.

As mentioned by another poster earlier, there will still be issues with the child.

Not to mention precedents set by other jihadists returning and still retaining their citizenship.

The legal arguments are set to run for a while...

[Yorkie62]

I find this baffling.

I’m an Irish citizen, and have a right to live and work in the UK under the CTA.

You seem to be advocating that your ability to live and work here is not a right, but a privilege that can be taken away at any time.

You’re advocating that I have more rights than you?

Truly baffling.

Take this a step further. Let’s say that the precedent is set that the Home Office minister can unilaterally remove British citizenship. Let’s then say that the next government is a hard left Corbyn socialist government. You’ve now given them the legal power to remove citizenship unilaterally?

You give away your rights too easily.

Our government gives away our rights too easily. Which is why we want to leave!

[meridian]

Good riddance of the week

Our government gives away our rights too easily. Which is why we want to leave!

Your government is taking away rights of its own citizens, which in normal (quiet) times would go unnoticed.

Even though the legislation appears to provide for citizenship to be removed if the person has an alternative nationality to fall back on, the application of this opens up a can of worms.

Some other people/groups that can have their U.K. citizenship unilaterally stripped by the Home Secretary, simply because they have the right to another citizenship:

Anyone born in the US (eg Boris Johnson)
Anyone with an Irish parent (or possibly even grandparent, if the birth was registered correctly)
Anyone in Northern Ireland
Possibly all British Jews through the Law of Return
Anyone with Pakistani parents (eg the current Home Secretary...)

[Zigenare]

Your government is taking away rights of its own citizens, which in normal (quiet) times would go unnoticed.

Even though the legislation appears to provide for citizenship to be removed if the person has an alternative nationality to fall back on, the application of this opens up a can of worms.

Some other people/groups that can have their U.K. citizenship unilaterally stripped by the Home Secretary, simply because they have the right to another citizenship:

Anyone born in the US (eg Boris Johnson)
Anyone with an Irish parent (or possibly even grandparent, if the birth was registered correctly)
Anyone in Northern Ireland
Possibly all British Jews through the Law of Return
Anyone with Pakistani parents (eg the current Home Secretary...)

Assuming the records weren't destroyed by the Irish - just saying, like!

Which as it turns out after a quick search, my Maternal Grandmother's records still exist! I think I'll apply for an Irish passport!!!!

Quids in after the end of March!!!!