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11 dead in French shooting

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    #61
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    10 people in office, attackers had no clue which ones could have had a few handguns (Glock 9mm to the head is as effective as 7.62 from Kalashnikov) - by the time they shot 3rd victim they should have received return fire from those who had firearms. Granted artists are not the ones carrying guns, but given the risks they took and much more liberal gun laws in France they should have armed themselves at least in the office.

    Obviously it's NOT their fault that they were not armed, I am just saying had they been armed then attackers would not have killed so many.
    I've just had a look around the office to see who should be armed in case we are attacked by armed nutters. I reckon I'd be safer just running like **** rather than arm any of my colleagues.
    I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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      #62
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      Almost anybody in this country can get license to drive 2 ton vehicle which can and often does kill many people, why can't responsible trained people get handgun license?
      FFS AtW, I think everyone understands your point and most agree with it. It is the difference between what a Coroner does to a deadbody as against what Sir Jimmy Saville does to it.

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        #63
        Originally posted by GlenW View Post
        I've just had a look around the office to see who should be armed in case we are attacked by armed nutters. I reckon I'd be safer just running like **** rather than arm any of my colleagues.
        I reckon I'd be in a tulipload more danger from my colleagues than anyone else.

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          #64
          Originally posted by GlenW View Post
          I've just had a look around the office to see who should be armed in case we are attacked by armed nutters. I reckon I'd be safer just running like **** rather than arm any of my colleagues.
          Have you considered for a moment that maybe you should be working somewhere else?

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            #65
            Originally posted by Bunk View Post
            I reckon I'd be in a tulipload more danger from my colleagues than anyone else.
            +1

            Fecking permies

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              #66
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              Have you considered for a moment that maybe you should be working somewhere else?
              Why? I'm quite happy being surrounded by people who aren't Bruce Willis wannabes and would probably tulip themselves if anyone even suggested they should be armed.
              I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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                #67
                You cannot protect yourselves from deranged people, since they defy rational behaviour. That is the measure of their "success".

                I have held licensed firearms for nearly 30 years, prior to which I had military firearms. I grew up with the bleeding things all over the place (South Africa '70/'80/'90s). I spent years doing "Practical Pistol/Combat" shooting, but would never consider myself ready to take on these irrational imbeciles, nor ready to face the consequences of taking a pot and missing, hitting an innocent.
                I was an IPSE Consultative Council Member, until the BoD abolished it. I am not an IPSE Member, since they have no longer have any relevance to me, as an IT Contractor. Read my lips...I recommend QDOS for ALL your Insurance requirements (Contact me for a referral code).

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by GlenW View Post
                  Why? I'm quite happy being surrounded by people who aren't Bruce Willis wannabes and would probably tulip themselves if anyone even suggested they should be armed.
                  Ok, then it's your choice to be killed like a lamb in slaughterhouse, which is perfectly acceptable so long as others get to choose their own path.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Ok, then it's your choice to be killed like a lamb in slaughterhouse, which is perfectly acceptable so long as others get to choose their own path.
                    What are you doing differently then?
                    Do you go to work armed?
                    Are any of your colleagues armed at work?
                    Do you have weapons at home?
                    I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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                      #70
                      http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...olleagues.html

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