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    #11
    Another method to control the demand is to lower the train fares for the commute trains from outside M25 into London. Plenty of people will be glad to get far away from central London if they can afford to commute in.

    Instead the Gov is going to spend 40 odd billion on HS2 that no sane person will be able to afford to use anyway, with prices higher than plane tickets to most parts of Europe.

    The situation is not new or unique to UK/London and the solutions are well known, what is lacking is a will to implement them, as they are in direct conflict with the Lobbies lining the politicians pockets.

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      #12
      Originally posted by sal View Post
      Another method to control the demand is to lower the train fares for the commute trains from outside M25 into London.
      As well as speeding up the trains so that the commutable area becomes larger.

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        #13
        Thank god for low paid immigrants to build the tiny tulip boxes!

        Builders forced to hire bricklayers from Portugal on £1,000 a week - Telegraph

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          #14
          The problem is that as the article says we need to train more people.

          So more people will have the skills and so the demand becomes less and so the daily rates go down and so people look elsewhere to find a job that pays more money so we end up with a shortage of skills, so we go abroad to get the skills and so the government says train people so we have more people with the skills and so the demand goes down.........

          and it is a very angry circle indeed.

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            #15
            I holidayed in Portugal this year.

            Don't remember too many brick houses.

            Another tulip "news" story.

            If you want to invest in property without buying a house by a REIT.

            IUKP or IUSP are two etf's that cover the UK and US property market.

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              #16
              Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
              I holidayed in Portugal this year.

              Don't remember too many brick houses.

              Another tulip "news" story.

              If you want to invest in property without buying a house by a REIT.

              IUKP or IUSP are two etf's that cover the UK and US property market.
              Paper houses are like paper gold.

              Look at the IUKP price 2007 to 2009 compared with real UK house prices.

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                #17
                True. Its only a proxy. Effectively taking a position on large commercial landlords.

                I bought IUKP in 2009 and its returned about 60% excluding the dividend which has been between 4 - 5% a year.

                The question was. Can you take a position in the property market without buying a house?

                An REIT ETF is one answer. Other property funds are available.

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