You reap what you sow

[dundeegeorge]

Hey chicken

I see you've still not found any real evidence for your delusions then.

[Not So Wise]

Re: clarity

You are the type who hides behind the bible parroting scripture with no true understanding of exactly where it comes from or exactly what it means, you just find anything that suits your argument or point of view and say "this is the word of god"

The only "laws" in the bible supposed directly from God and that were not open to interpretation is the 10 commandments, everything else is from faulty interpretations (both in understanding and interpretation) or from the factions trying to put forward their own interpretations.

All this has left the bible in a state where it can be used to justify anything if you want it to, from the crusades, to the inquisition, to slavery, to men being superior to women, to gays being in the clergy or not being depending on who you ask, to beating children to death to beat out demons, hell if someone wanted to they could probably find a justification to crashing planes into world trade centers.

Like really lets look at actual facts here, even the words of Jesus (accepting the fact that he was the son god bla bla) did he write down what he said? no
Did the disciples write down (take minutes) of what he said? no
Most of not all of the new testament was written in Hebrew and Latin years/decades or even centuries after the fact.

Take any important conversation you have had more than a year old, can you remember word for word what was said? Doubt it, so how could they? So they put what they remembered and because they were human everything they remember would be from their point of view and would have been "infected" with their "slanted" point of view and agenda's

Then the disciples words were changed and translated first into Latin then into English, once again by humans and each with their own interpretations and slants and agenda's

Because of this we have ended up with multiple versions of the bible, all slightly different and the multiple versions of the Christian church all preaching slightly different things

The bible is at very best a collection of Chinese whispers.

For all the people (and i classify you as one of them) the bible is a tool, an excuse, something to be used to justify their actions in other words, to not take responsibility themselves for their thoughts, actions and general failings as human beings.

And to flip back to the original point that YOU raised in this thread, satanists protected by this new law. Know what? i say good, better them than a religion who has the blood of millions if not billions on it's hands and that has been for centuries and still continues to this day to force it's beliefs on those around them.

[ChicoLondon]

WWJD

.... And we are reaping what we previously sowed

[sasguru]

Re: WWJD

No doubt Osama believes he has superior understanding too ...

[ChicoLondon]

Re: WWJD

Not so wise

Any GCSE Religious Studies student could easily debunk your so called theories so I will not waste my time. However I suggest you too read the Bible rather than pluck out things from the air.

[Lucifer Box]

Unanswered Questions

Chico, do you have comments to my observations?

What is harsh is Satan and his followers deceiving billions of people and leading them into eternal damnation. That is truly harsh.

In Christian belief is it possible for a non-Christian to achieve eternal life?

Isn't inaction on God's behalf (i.e. not spreading His message more widely or sooner), which effectively abandons billions of people to eternal damnation through no fault of their own, similarly harsh?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Common translation: Only way in is accept Jesus as our Savior and Lord and then live for Him or you are screwed. So no, non christians or people who never heard of him, regardless of how they comport themselves in life, "go to hell"

I'm getting distinctly mixed messages about the Christian God here. On the one hand, He is supposed to love all of His creations, on the other those who stayed "on message" (in New Labour speak) throughout their lives, but simply had not heard of Jesus, are condemned to an eternity of torment. That's coming pretty close to saying that what you say is more important than what you do, which can't be right.

[DodgyAgent]

Re: WWJD

Any GCSE Religious Studies student could easily debunk your so called theories so I will not waste my time.

Chico Illustrates my point perfectly

[Not So Wise]

Re: Unanswered Questions

Any GCSE Religious Studies student could easily debunk your so called theories so I will not waste my time

Debunk what? It is known fact that Jesus did not write the bible, just as it's know fact that most of the new testament was written long after he was dead.
Ask ANY bible scholar.

[Not So Wise]

Re: Unanswered Questions

.... And we are reaping what we previously sowed

About the only thing of inteligence i have seen you say.
"Christianty" definatly has sowed a lot of pain, suffering and death in "the name of god"

[sasguru]

Re: Unanswered Questions

Here's a prediction, Lucifer.

Chico will ignore your post because he doesn't have an answer.