Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[Batcher]

Good.

Vote "Yes".

Feck off.

Enjoy your socialist/Stalinist nirvana.

And don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

Cheers. I really wish you had a vote

[Flashman]

scooterscot;1986625]Fantastic article

Imagine the question posed the other way round. An independent nation is asked to decide whether to surrender its sovereignty to a larger union. It would be allowed a measure of autonomy, but key aspects of its governance would be handed to another nation. It would be used as a military base by the dominant power and yoked to an economy over which it had no control.

It would have to be bloody desperate.

Minus the military component (for the time being anyway) sounds exactly like the UK joining the EU.

Given the choice it wouldn't happen now.

[jamesbrown]

I have. He's an MEP giving his opinion just like Barroso did and he was shown to be wrong too. They are friends of the Tories in the EU so will say anything they are asked to do. It's all spin. David Cameron has been appealing with other leaders around the world to speak against Scottish independence, even Putin but he told him where to go.

Right, it's all just a massive conspiracy.

FWIW, I hope you get your independence.

[minestrone]

Like anyone cares what the welsh think.

[scooterscot]

Good.

Vote "Yes".

Feck off.

Enjoy your socialist/Stalinist nirvana.

And don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

It's the green eyed monster. Envy is a deadly sin you know.

[mudskipper]

I don't get a vote, but if I did, I'd vote no.

This is something that will affect the whole of the UK for generations to come, long after Salmond and Cameron are dim and distant memories. It's not about the bedroom tax, and no voters aren't saying "I agree with everything Westminster does" as some commentators would have us believe.

But I don't get a vote, so my view counts for squat.

[SueEllen]

I'll give you Iceland has the resources but they aren't already EU citizens. You can't seriously think Albania and Turkey should get in ahead of Scotland?

Yes.

Turkey would have the youngest population in the EU. Virtually all EU countries are ageing so we need a country with a younger workforce to exploit.

Also allowing Turkey in would mean the freedom of movement rules would have to change.

[SueEllen]

It's the green eyed monster. Envy is a deadly sin you know.

We have British passports - if we wish to move to a socialist nirvana in the EU we would have up sticks and done so already.....

[SueEllen]

No it won't. You can't join the Euro without having been a member of the IMF for two years. Sweden is a member of the EU but hasn't joined the IMF so won't have the Euro.

Sweden don't want to join the IMF or the Euro otherwise they would have joined.

[The Spartan]

Scotland