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'Statistically significant' rise in net migration to UK

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    #21
    Originally posted by smalldog View Post
    no such thing as a perfect solution
    Indeed.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #22
      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
      I wonder how the presiding PM will feel during the break up of a country under his premiership.

      Not exactly a way to go down in history.
      History will probably say that he led us out of the grip of the totalitarian and undemocratic European Union to the benefit of the UK economy and he got shot of the burdensome whining lefties North of the border.

      Short term he may not like it but in the long run he will have made a name for himself either way.
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #23
        Originally posted by smalldog View Post
        Worst thing is its brilliant for black market employment and the greedy companies who dont want to play by the rules and who pay below minimum wage and off the books to former eastern block nationals who will work for breadcrumbs. Which obviously isnt good for the economy as its off radar and not taxed so not supporting social services. Of course the migrants will take these illegal jobs, they are banned from receiving benefits initially. I really dont blame them for coming here, I would if it was my families future.
        The reasons for migrants wanting to come here will remain the same even if we leave the EU, but making it harder for them can only lead to a large increase in illegal immigration and people taking such illegal jobs (illegal immigrants don't really have a choice - they can't take legal jobs or pay tax). You have that backwards. What would be brilliant for the black market (including the smugglers) would be for Britain to leave the EU.
        Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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          #24
          Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
          The reasons for migrants wanting to come here will remain the same even if we leave the EU, but making it harder for them can only lead to a large increase in illegal immigration and people taking such illegal jobs (illegal immigrants don't really have a choice - they can't take legal jobs or pay tax). You have that backwards. What would be brilliant for the black market (including the smugglers) would be for Britain to leave the EU.
          I accept we cant control the illegals and them working black market. Im referring to the EU migrants who cant get work apart from being paid illegally, they are here legitimately but being taken advantage of.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            History will probably say that he led us out of the grip of the totalitarian and undemocratic European Union to the benefit of the UK economy and he got shot of the burdensome whining lefties North of the border.

            Short term he may not like it but in the long run he will have made a name for himself either way.
            You think the history books will care for such insignificance in today's world?
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #26
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              Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
              I wonder how the presiding PM will feel during the break up of a country under his premiership.

              Not exactly a way to go down into history an election year .
              FTFY

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                #27
                Originally posted by tractor View Post
                FTFY
                Short term goals, long term destruction.

                Why hell lets sweeten the deal by privatising, er emm ah there's nothing left.
                "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                  I wonder how the presiding PM will feel during the break up of a country under his premiership.

                  Not exactly a way to go down in history.
                  Scapegoat already in place in the form of Darling.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
                    Scapegoat already in place in the form of Darling.
                    That's not what the history books will say. They'll all point to 'omg what pm let this happen?'
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
                      Scapegoat already in place in the form of Darling.
                      Who is Darling?

                      If you need a scapegoat should have at least made sure they were an ex-leader of one of the three main UK political parties.....

                      I would have rolled out John Major or Brown.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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