'Statistically significant' rise in net migration to UK

[Bunk]

I don't think they would, it is inline with the current UK net migration.

Indeed.

Scotland (proposed)
24,000 / 5,327,700 = 0.0045

UK (current)
243,000 / 64,100,000 = 0.0038

[Mich the Tester]

An independent Scotland will have a migration target of 24k.

Many in UKIP / English folks would spontaneously combust with excitement at the thought of such a statistic.

That's proportionately higher than it is at the moment

I don't think they would, it is inline with the current UK net migration.

Indeed.

Scotland (proposed)
24,000 / 5,327,700 = 0.0045

UK (current)
243,000 / 64,100,000 = 0.0038

Ah, the wonderful sound of bulltulip being splattered against a wall of fact.

[CheeseSlice]

I wonder if after a YES vote, David Cameron will declare victory after reducing net migration to something like: minus 5 million.

[CloudWalker]

[smalldog]

there is a tipping point in terms of the benefits that migration brings, think we are at it now:

BBC News - Primary school places budget squeeze

The liberals will tell you its all good and the additional taxes enable new infrastructure projects to support the growing populous blah blah blah. However schools and hospitals aren't built in a week, there is a lag of years before we can cater for the uplift, by which time its moved again. Continual tail chasing.

When net migration figures are used to provide a population forecast and associated infrastructure projects and they are wrong, then guess what happens. Social Services cant cope with the demand. That is then compounded by the unfactored migrants also having children.

Quicker we get out of Europe the better IMHO, this freedom of movement isn't working and I think we are better risking trade agreements than battling on trying to cater for everyone to come here. The economy cant cope in terms of funding, social services cant cope in terms of capacity.

Its ridiculous, Farage really does have a point and Im not surprised he is mixing it with the big boys.

[scooterscot]

I wonder if after a YES vote, David Cameron will declare victory after reducing net migration to something like: minus 5 million.

I wonder how the presiding PM will feel during the break up of a country under his premiership.

Not exactly a way to go down in history.

[Mich the Tester]

Quicker we get out of Europe the better IMHO, this freedom of movement isn't working

Arguably it IS working very well for businesses in Europe.

[smalldog]

Arguably it IS working very well for businesses in Europe.

For legitimate yes Its working well. For my startup for example, we have a mixed workforce with probably about 30% non-UK European nationals. These people would still work here if we left Europe, just require work permit/sponsorship, no different to the Asian guy we have working here we sponsored.

Its also great for the companies who cant get some of the lazy, benefit claiming good for nothing UK nationals to do menial jobs, I agree.

Worst thing is its brilliant for black market employment and the greedy companies who dont want to play by the rules and who pay below minimum wage and off the books to former eastern block nationals who will work for breadcrumbs. Which obviously isnt good for the economy as its off radar and not taxed so not supporting social services. Of course the migrants will take these illegal jobs, they are banned from receiving benefits initially. I really dont blame them for coming here, I would if it was my families future.

[Mich the Tester]

These people would still work here if we left Europe, just require work permit/sponsorship,

Britain's civil servants are hardly even capable of renewing passports of UK citizens in the space of 5 months; what makes you think they could process tens or even hundreds of thousands of work permit applications from UK employers or European employees within the time frame required by business, i.e. days?

[smalldog]

Britain's civil servants are hardly even capable of renewing passports of UK citizens in the space of 5 months; what makes you think they could process tens or even hundreds of thousands of work permit applications from UK employers or European employees within the time frame required by business, i.e. days?

no such thing as a perfect solution, granted there would need to be bolstering in areas to cope with the uplift which is why permits are chargeable.