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    #21
    Yet another scam to ensure we all buy new cars every few years.
    The car is a loss leader, their main income stream is in servicing/maintenance.

    Time was, car manufacturers included rust traps to catch mud and salt so the car rotted
    and fell apart after a couple of years. The public cottoned on to this and now manufacturers include electrical gadgets which will fail in a similar timeframe requiring replacement of a complete module (Only £500 plus another £500 labour to fit it, tell the main ECU it's been changed etc.)

    So what happens when POST (power on self test) indicates that a sensor has failed?
    - 'I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that'.
    - Tow-truck, main stealer, new module, reprogramming, big bill.

    Yes, I drive a Discovery....

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      It's not really about the 'blame', but about who picks up the cost when somebody is crippled for life and unable to work after an accident involving a driverless car.
      society

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        #23
        Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
        society
        Sure. You know, there's only one group of people I trust less than insurers and agents, and that's 'society'.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #24
          Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death
          Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive

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            #25
            Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
            Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death
            Windows will nag you to death about patches, promise to reboot within 2 days after applying them no matter what you are doing, and nag you until you install and antivirus package.

            Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
            Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive
            Uninformed bollux.
            Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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              #26
              I can imagine companies paying to have driver less cars stop off at their stores before taking you to your final destination just like tuktuk's

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
                Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive
                Apple cars will only allow you to travel on Apple roads and to Apple destinations. Which means you'll have to work for Apple, buy all your food from Apple, and have Apple certified friends.
                Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                  #28


                  Cop pulls over Google self-driving car, finds no driver to ticket - CNN.com

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                    Here's why I don't want a driverless car;



                    In high-octane Britain, the driverless car is a*non-starter - Telegraph

                    Besides, I'm a tester; I've spent the last 15 years delving into faults in software, and despite all the predictions of the last 15 years of 'right first time', 'self testing software', '4GL will make testing obsolete' and 'continous delivery means bugs are fixed before they're found', it's probably easier than ever to make a complex system break and my skills are still in demand; a complex system is what you will get when you have 3 or more self driving cars and a few cars with drivers. It's not all that difficult to make a correctly functioning unit in a complex system; it's very difficult to predict how the whole system will behave further down the line in response to one unexpected occurrence in one unit.

                    I think the technology in driverless cars has its purposes, perhaps in driver assistance, but also in applications such as logistics, farming, exploration in remote areas, and so I think it's brilliant that they're being trialled, but putting them on the road on a large scale, mixed in with cars driven by humans, that's another matter.
                    https://blog.8thlight.com/uncle-bob/...-Disaster.html

                    And why would a nation of people who spend multiple tens of thousands of pounds on cars want to own a car that they don't even drive?!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
                      Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death
                      Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive
                      My macs have all been pretty much entirely functional out of the box.

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