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[SpontaneousOrder]

Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death
Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive

My macs have all been pretty much entirely functional out of the box.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Here's why I don't want a driverless car;



In high-octane Britain, the driverless car is a*non-starter - Telegraph

Besides, I'm a tester; I've spent the last 15 years delving into faults in software, and despite all the predictions of the last 15 years of 'right first time', 'self testing software', '4GL will make testing obsolete' and 'continous delivery means bugs are fixed before they're found', it's probably easier than ever to make a complex system break and my skills are still in demand; a complex system is what you will get when you have 3 or more self driving cars and a few cars with drivers. It's not all that difficult to make a correctly functioning unit in a complex system; it's very difficult to predict how the whole system will behave further down the line in response to one unexpected occurrence in one unit.

I think the technology in driverless cars has its purposes, perhaps in driver assistance, but also in applications such as logistics, farming, exploration in remote areas, and so I think it's brilliant that they're being trialled, but putting them on the road on a large scale, mixed in with cars driven by humans, that's another matter.

https://blog.8thlight.com/uncle-bob/...-Disaster.html

And why would a nation of people who spend multiple tens of thousands of pounds on cars want to own a car that they don't even drive?!

[greenlake]

Cop pulls over Google self-driving car, finds no driver to ticket - CNN.com

[VectraMan]

Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive

Apple cars will only allow you to travel on Apple roads and to Apple destinations. Which means you'll have to work for Apple, buy all your food from Apple, and have Apple certified friends.

[CloudWalker]

I can imagine companies paying to have driver less cars stop off at their stores before taking you to your final destination just like tuktuk's

[Sysman]

Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death

Windows will nag you to death about patches, promise to reboot within 2 days after applying them no matter what you are doing, and nag you until you install and antivirus package.

Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive

Uninformed bollux.

[Eirikur]

Hopefully no MS WIndows cars, the blue screen of death will be the blue screen of certain death
Apple cars will require you to purchase all sorts of expensive apps before you can actually drive

[Mich the Tester]

society

Sure. You know, there's only one group of people I trust less than insurers and agents, and that's 'society'.

[tomtomagain]

It's not really about the 'blame', but about who picks up the cost when somebody is crippled for life and unable to work after an accident involving a driverless car.

society

[RSoles]

Yet another scam to ensure we all buy new cars every few years.
The car is a loss leader, their main income stream is in servicing/maintenance.

Time was, car manufacturers included rust traps to catch mud and salt so the car rotted
and fell apart after a couple of years. The public cottoned on to this and now manufacturers include electrical gadgets which will fail in a similar timeframe requiring replacement of a complete module (Only £500 plus another £500 labour to fit it, tell the main ECU it's been changed etc.)

So what happens when POST (power on self test) indicates that a sensor has failed?
- 'I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that'.
- Tow-truck, main stealer, new module, reprogramming, big bill.

Yes, I drive a Discovery....

[Mich the Tester]

Why should there be "blame" if there is an accident?

It's not really about the 'blame', but about who picks up the cost when somebody is crippled for life and unable to work after an accident involving a driverless car.

[tomtomagain]

If a Driver less car has an accident , who's to blame

Why should there be "blame" if there is an accident?

If you worry about the litigation then nothing would ever have been invented and we'd all still be living in caves.

[Mich the Tester]

If a Driver less car has an accident , who's to blame

The testers

[CloudWalker]

If a Driver less car has an accident , who's to blame

[SantaClaus]

Driver-less cars are a great idea.

I look forward to getting one. Just think you'll be able to get it to drop you off at the pub, restaurant or wherever and get it to pick you up when you want to go home.

Need to run the kids to their clubs? Nah, just stick 'em in the car and off they go.

Fetching the ageing parents? Send it to pick them up.

Cars are the biggest killers of men aged 17 - 24 in the UK. No more roadside shrines.

And why would you need a car anyway? You could just call one up on demand from your smartphone, use it to take you where you need to be and send it off. Personal chauffeur for everyone. iTaxi. iCar.

Of course there will be fatal accidents. But never mind there were 1,754 People Killed on the UK's roads in 2012. And 20,000 serious injuries. If any other activity killed 5 people a day .... every day .... every year .... there would be uproar and "Something Must Be Done".


I want a driver-less car. I want a flying driver-less car. Living in the future is great.

You've just given me an excellent idea for the mother in law.