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Another Malaysian Airlines 777 Crash

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    #11
    Jonathan Beale Defence correspondent, BBC News The only other possibility is for an aircraft at that height to be downed by a fighter carrying air-to-air missiles. The US will have access to satellite imagery that should be able to identify ultra-violet plumes if a long-range surface-to-air missile was fired.
    Jonathan Beale Defence correspondent, BBC News A defence expert has told the BBC that shooting down a plane at 10,000 metres (9.7 miles) would have required a long-range surface-to-air missile - possibly guided by radar. That suggests it is unlikely it could have been downed by a portable air defence missile, or Manpad, which has a much shorter range.
    So not accidental then.
    Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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      #12
      If you check on http://www.flightradar24.com/AUI848/3d6b1b4

      there are still an awful lot of international flights going over Ukraine - you think they'd clear the airspace
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #13
        Originally posted by Troll View Post
        If you check on http://www.flightradar24.com/AUI848/3d6b1b4

        there are still an awful lot of international flights going over Ukraine - you think they'd clear the airspace
        +100

        remarkably no one is responsible. Its those other guys.

        Its not entirely safe in that region even in peacetime!

        Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner - Telegraph

        Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week, killing all 78 passengers and crew.
        Sorry comrade!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Troll View Post
          If you check on http://www.flightradar24.com/AUI848/3d6b1b4

          there are still an awful lot of international flights going over Ukraine - you think they'd clear the airspace
          There don't appear to be any flights currently crossing the Ukraine Russian border now. I think they've got the message.
          "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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            #15
            Dozens of US citizens on board, apparently.

            This won't be pretty, given only high spec SAMs could bring a plane at that altitude - like the kind that Moscow have supposedly been freely handing out like Christmas crackers to their comrades in eastern Ukraine.

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              #16
              Second Malaysian plane in the space of a few months. Something's fishy.

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                #17
                Originally posted by centurian View Post
                Dozens of US citizens on board, apparently. .
                Oh no, not US citizens. What the hell is the world coming to?
                "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                  Oh no, not US citizens. What the hell is the world coming to?
                  23 apparently.

                  Thank goodness WEstern Europe does not rely on Russian Gas so we can impose sanctions....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    23 apparently.

                    Thank goodness WEstern Europe does not rely on Russian Gas so we can impose sanctions....
                    I don't doubt for a moment that inside Russia there's some level of regret, questions being asked, of the supply of military equipment to those rebels.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                      I don't doubt for a moment that inside Russia there's some level of regret, questions being asked, of the supply of military equipment to those rebels.
                      Could be the ukranians. Did you see the vid where they left a fully fuelled & armed bmp-type vehicle parker on the high street?

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