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    #11
    . But you? Are you a pussy? ARE YOU?
    You obviously are if you haven't actually gone as far as sueing them, MF

    Oh and one thing TS15 - Blogs can get you fired and lose you future contracts, remember that. Explicit or not doesn't matter, criticised companies are always sensitive about this things, you'll find.
    "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
    - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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      #12
      Jacks - no I had a go. As Malv says though, its the time & hassle actually outweighs how much I would win, and Jon Antel from the site seemed to think they would pay, but between me paying him, the time etc it wasnt worth it.
      What happens in General, stays in General.
      You know what they say about assumptions!

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        #13
        Do you have any liability cover? You may have included legal protection which will cover the cost of a protracted action.

        regds
        error
        jobjock www.dreamturbine.com

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          #14
          I had to sue an agency several years ago and took the legal route with representation by a firm of Solicitors specialised in Contract and Commercial Law. The outcome was that the agency had to settle and additionally had to pay all of the costs.

          Also, since the agency/employment business have not mentioned the "Blog" in their termination, i.e. terminated for "Gross miscounduct" (for which you probably would not have a defence), this cannot be used in evidence against you, and without this their case could be quite poor.

          Basically, if you are confident that you have performed as required by your contract then sue the agency/employment business for the 4 weeks notice.

          Good luck!!

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            #15
            Thanks all - lots of advice, which is what I was hoping for.

            So, what have I learnt?

            1 - Don't write anything in a Blog. Although the blog entry was nothing about the project, just about effective design, if the end client ever read the entry and compared it to the build, then they might wonder why it was done that way. (If anyone cares, the "offending" entry is (no longer) here.

            2 - Don't put anything unnecessary in code comments. By trying to protect myself (the responsibility for ensuring the project met the build standards was mine alone), this wasn't the way to do it. I shouldn't have done it, but hindsight is a wonderful thing - unbelievably stupid given my already precarious situation.

            3 - Understand everything that's in the contract. Having been given an extension of just over 5 months, I didn't anticipate getting into a situation where they would say "we're not happy" and terminate the contract. If I'd been in their shoes I would have gone the route of unprofessional conduct, which I wouldn't even think about fighting.

            4 - Stop acting like a consultant and think like a contractor. I'm no longer being paid to argue over the design (even if they are so wrong!), make the point and then move on. Take the money and keep quiet.

            5 - Never underestimate the reaction from permies - when you have two people giving conflicting advice and one is permie and one contractor, there's typically only going to be one winner. I completely misjudged my position - I was brought in as a recognized expert for this particular piece of work, which is why I was so concerned about the design.

            I'm not completely surprised at ending the contract, it's more the manner of the way it's been done. I'm pretty sure that if the PM had spoken to me about terminating the contract, I'd have been willing to do it.

            I've invoiced them for the four weeks notice (which I don't think for one second that they will pay), and will have to wait and see what they say. I'm more worried about things being presented in court that would potentially impact on my getting more work (would you employ someone who sues when the contract gets terminated??), so probably won't go as far as suing. Not really happy about it, and feel a bit of a wimp, but I now need to concentrate on getting a new contract instead of thinking about going to court over this one.

            Thanks again.
            Last edited by TK421; 21 October 2011, 12:20.

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              #16
              "a customer I worked with in the past wanted to retain the data for 7 years! At their anticipated sales volumes, that meant that there will be somewhere in excess of 450 million records in the one table"

              is that the offending sentence?

              sheesh . 7 years is pretty standard to be honest (in Financial Industry anyway).

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                #17
                If only that was the offending sentence - that refers to a customer I worked with in 2000, nothing to do with the current one!

                The 2000 one was a financial client, this one was a public sector body with large sales of data (approx 150000 order lines per month) who want to keep the data for at least a year. No issue there, it's a design concern about where you store the data - runtime, non-tunable, non-partitioned tables is not the place to store it...

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