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unplanned weekend work - what rate should I look for?

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    #21
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Unless it's discussed in advance, there's no reason you would charge other than your daily rate IMO, certainly for working on Saturday.
    Agree, and also, don't sour the relationship for a few hundred quid

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      #22
      Thank you all for your answers, to clarify a few points, I've quantified the work to a total 6 hours on saturday, 10 on sunday - say 2 full working days. my feeling now is that it's all down to the client's "decency"

      The "normal rate" stated in the contract is for service performed in Normal working hours (8 hours as defined somewhere else in the contract) on Normal working days (any day other than saturdays and sundays and bank / national holidays)

      It is indeed my fault for not agreeing a rate in advance, as someone mentioned I did so to avoid "wasting" time and getting things done.

      Once again, I appreciate your comments, I'll let them speak first and will update this later with the outcome!

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        #23
        Give us an update on your approach and outcome. Would be interesting to see how it goes.
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          #24
          Originally posted by luki View Post
          the project manager I work for, called me on Saturday at 10am asking for me to work during the weekend as a colleague had an emergency and could not carry out the work he was supposed to, a delivery for Monday morning. I have agreed however we didn't discuss about the compensation for such unplanned weekend work. My mistake here, I know; the relationship with the employer is good, but I'd like some advice about what I should realistically ask for. The usual daily rate seems unfair to me consider that it was unplanned. Thanks in advance for your help!
          Lots of options, take your pick!
          1. Invoice the client for double time for the weekend work
          2. Invoice a normal day or pro-rata hourly rate for the weekend
          3. Tell the client that you are going to take time off in lieu for the time worked
          4. Smile and tell them that you are happy to help them out of a tough situation in an emergency and you are giving this one to them as a gesture of good will.


          I would tend towards option 1 or 4 and try to avoid 2 and 3. Which one you choose depends on your business relationship with the client...

          Option 1 shows them that you are a serious business person who values their weekends highly and won't give them up lightly. No offence to the client is intended, make sure they understand that it's just business.

          Option 4 shows good will but it also leaves them somewhat beholden to you. I don't mind this option if the problem was related to a project I was working on and if it is very rare. It may also be an indicator of fixing errors at your own cost should it come to an IR35 investigation.
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            #25
            If you are going to charge a premium for your time, which isn't specified on the contract, then you may be best to have a separate invoice to cover that.

            If you include it in one, and they argue it, then that whole invoice is delayed while you resolve the issue; if you have a separate invoice just for the additional time, and they argue it, then they cannot (without penalty) withhold any other payments due just because of the disagreement over the weekend time.
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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              #26
              final outcome

              It took a long time to sort this out, mostly because of a pletora of actors involved... In the end, we agreed on a 15% premium on my daily rate. I think it's fair enough to recognize the w/e work done at short notice.

              What I've learned is - unless agreed in advance, accepting your "normal" daily rate for w/e unplanned work is very dangerous - expect your client to contact you anytime with the same request!
              I've also learned that while I'd be happy to be paid twice my rate, it's probably above what most clients are prepared or even able to afford - it can be obtained, but you might lose the client or the good relationship you have.

              Just my 2p worth, but I hope it can be of help to someone else in the future!

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                #27
                Originally posted by luki View Post
                It took a long time to sort this out, mostly because of a pletora of actors involved... In the end, we agreed on a 15% premium on my daily rate. I think it's fair enough to recognize the w/e work done at short notice.

                What I've learned is - unless agreed in advance, accepting your "normal" daily rate for w/e unplanned work is very dangerous - expect your client to contact you anytime with the same request!
                I've also learned that while I'd be happy to be paid twice my rate, it's probably above what most clients are prepared or even able to afford - it can be obtained, but you might lose the client or the good relationship you have.

                Just my 2p worth, but I hope it can be of help to someone else in the future!
                15% - is it worth it?

                Yep. Usually find the client will assume its normal rate and/or want something for nothing.
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