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    #11
    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Since we're on the subject, my reasons for contracting are:-

    1. More money for same job, same job security ultimately.
    2. No more worrying about internal politics/reviews and tulip.
    These are the main reasons for me too. I get to stay programming, but earn more.

    Where I am based there aren't many high paying permie programming job options.

    Another factor for a programmer is it avoids being stuck on maintenance of the same crap legacy systems year in, year out. I know some people say we contractors get lumped with all the rubbish jobs, but that has not been my experience so far. I pick and choose the roles I take.

    And even if you did, you are more used to just handing in notice if a contract was not what you were expecting than your typical entrenched permie might be.

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      #12
      I became a contractor for the flexibility and variety of work, but I have to admit turning down an extension with nothing to go to is a scary prospect. A bird in the hand.... !

      Only done it once because I got fed up with the weekly commute, but even then it was difficult.

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        #13
        Turned one down last year. For a couple of reasons:
        1) the client wasn't taking the advice they paid for, and that will result in bad publicity when it all goes wrong.
        2) The client has the tax compliance issues that all departments have.
        3) spent more time arguing than applying my knowledge

        You have to think about what protects your skills in the long term.

        I got a new job this morning after having an interview last week. So two weeks on the bench for being a premodonna was not too bad really.

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          #14
          Originally posted by bobspud View Post
          Turned one down last year. For a couple of reasons:
          1) the client wasn't taking the advice they paid for, and that will result in bad publicity when it all goes wrong.
          2) The client has the tax compliance issues that all departments have.
          3) spent more time arguing than applying my knowledge

          You have to think about what protects your skills in the long term.

          I got a new job this morning after having an interview last week. So two weeks on the bench for being a premodonna was not too bad really.
          "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
          - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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            #15
            Originally posted by bobspud View Post
            You have to think about what protects your skills in the long term.

            I got a new job this morning after having an interview last week. So two weeks on the bench for being a premodonna was not too bad really.
            I'm going through the same thing with my current client. No work to do most of the time and when something does come along it's some tulip task that no one else can be bothered with. They've been told they have until tomorrow PM to sort it out or I'm off (there's a new contract from an old client in my Inbox just waiting for me to accept).

            I am not prepared to sit around doing sod-all whilst my skill-set gets diluted by time away from proper work.

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              #16
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              I find it really hard to do! I had one client lined up at the start of this year leaving me plenty of plan B time, but an old customer asked me for some time and I couldn't turn down the money. Then I renegotiated with them for even less hours next year but then the first client wants me to carry on and as it's a 1-man dev-team I'd be leaving them somewhat in the lurch.

              It's OK, I'm not after advice - but do you find it easy to turn down work? I always feel I should take any opportunity to maximise the warchest since I've only been doing this 5 years...
              Depends on how the client is IMO! I kept taking extensions for 3.5 years with one client yet 2 out of the last 3, I turned down because the roles werent what Id been lead to believe and had no chance to develop into something better.
              I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                #17
                subcontract, simple really

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                  #18
                  I'm not sure anybody mentioned it earlier in the thread but one of my motivations for turning down extensions was to limit my time with any one client for IR35 reasons. Keep each contract as a small target for Hector and they won't bother. Seemed to work for me.

                  I also think you are getting stale after a year or so and gradually getting drawn into politics and petty squabbles no matter how hard you try to avoid it.

                  I'd always be as polite as possible when turning it down and invent some personal/family reason if needed, you never know down the line.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by rootsnall View Post
                    I'm not sure anybody mentioned it earlier in the thread but one of my motivations for turning down extensions was to limit my time with any one client for IR35 reasons. Keep each contract as a small target for Hector and they won't bother. Seemed to work for me.

                    I also think you are getting stale after a year or so and gradually getting drawn into politics and petty squabbles no matter how hard you try to avoid it.
                    I'd always be as polite as possible when turning it down and invent some personal/family reason if needed, you never know down the line.
                    Pretty much nailed it for me. Stayed with one contract for 3 years and by the end, my standards had slipped, I couldn't really give a tulip about the role, or my work and decided to leave to challenge myself again.

                    Best thing I ever did. Now I keep to a year max, although I have just signed a 6 month gig and then it was indicated it's a 6 year project...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      Since we're on the subject, my reasons for contracting are:-

                      1. More money for same job, same job security ultimately.
                      2. No more worrying about internal politics/reviews and tulip.

                      But not :-

                      1. More time off - I actually take less time off.
                      my reasons in a nutshell.

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