BI Contracts in London/South East and rates

[Pogle]

I'm also in the same area, though i'm more on the BA/Reporting side.

Were paying around £450 for ETL work, £350-£400 for other roles, plus we have a couple of roles on £600 per day. I'm outside London and 5 minutes from home.

There is plenty of competition for Microsoft skills. Oracle pays slightly more IMO.

I agree with MF () There are a lot of Microsoft folk about - mainly cos its easy to get the software and teach yourself. If you want the higher rates, then you need to get into the niche areas.
In my little ETL niche the demand is currently very high and rates are going up accordingly.

Also, working in London is bloomin expensive IMHO.... its all those shops....

[Freamon]

Heard the other day of a contractor with exactly these skills (Cognos, SSIS) working at a large fairly famous cartoon entertainment co in London on £1000/day.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I agree with MF () There are a lot of Microsoft folk about - mainly cos its easy to get the software and teach yourself. If you want the higher rates, then you need to get into the niche areas.
In my little ETL niche the demand is currently very high and rates are going up accordingly.

Also, working in London is bloomin expensive IMHO.... its all those shops....

I am not sure its that black and white. I think it would be easy to get say a web apps developer or a database developer (or a combination of the 2). But finding BI people with Datawarehousing and extensive ETL experience is really tough. I know of 3 roles I have been offered interviews for with clients desperate for that skillset. One client was even willing to go up from 300 to nearly 400 a day in the Leeds area. In the Isle of Man they were offering 600/day. Maybe in London it's different because though you have the demand you also have a big supply....

[2BIT]

I am not sure its that black and white. I think it would be easy to get say a web apps developer or a database developer (or a combination of the 2). But finding BI people with Datawarehousing and extensive ETL experience is really tough. I know of 3 roles I have been offered interviews for with clients desperate for that skillset. One client was even willing to go up from 300 to nearly 400 a day in the Leeds area. In the Isle of Man they were offering 600/day. Maybe in London it's different because though you have the demand you also have a big supply....

heard of guys at 900-1200 at my last place due to their sheer desperation - its very niche stuff but BI all the same, the MS guy wasn't on nearly as much

the more 'back-end' your kind of work is the better the rate I've found as its more niche and more complex.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

heard of guys at 900-1200 at my last place due to their sheer desperation - its very niche stuff but BI all the same, the MS guy wasn't on nearly as much

the more 'back-end' your kind of work is the better the rate I've found as its more niche and more complex.

Right I need to know what stuff pays 900+/day. Is it Oracle stuff? And is it possible to make the move into it from MS background? As long as it does not involve permie route it might be worth a try....

[2BIT]

Right I need to know what stuff pays 900+/day. Is it Oracle stuff? And is it possible to make the move into it from MS background? As long as it does not involve permie route it might be worth a try....

its more reflective of the clients desperation than of the market rates, certainly you'll be worth more as an Oracle dev than a MS dev but Oracle can be an arse as its a lot deeper than MS.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

its more reflective of the clients desperation than of the market rates, certainly you'll be worth more as an Oracle dev than a MS dev but Oracle can be an arse as its a lot deeper than MS.

True say, I did some Oracle work early in my career and it's a lot more of a headache than MS. I would be happy with a lower rate doing MS i guess. Might consider Oracle in the future.

[nomadd]

True say, I did some Oracle work early in my career and it's a lot more of a headache than MS. I would be happy with a lower rate doing MS i guess. Might consider Oracle in the future.

Oracle, headache? Nah. Been working with Oracle db and other Oracle products since 1989 and it's never given me a headache.

Now if it's a headache - along with plenty of heartache - that you want, try SAP, or any of IBMs enterprise products.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Oracle, headache? Nah. Been working with Oracle db and other Oracle products since 1989 and it's never given me a headache.

Now if it's a headache - along with plenty of heartache - that you want, try SAP, or any of IBMs enterprise products.

Hence why Cognos/SAP roles pay so much more than MS roles. In order of least pain it must be:

MS
Oracle
SAP
IBM

Or should we switch round the last 2?

[2BIT]

Hence why Cognos/SAP roles pay so much more than MS roles. In order of least pain it must be:

MS
Oracle
SAP
IBM

Or should we switch round the last 2?

i don't know if Lotus Notes was done by IBM when it was rewritten in Eclipse but a horrible app that is!

think the last three can be interchangeble depending on what you are trying to do, Oracle was easy to set up once but when I wanted to put another version on my machine it became a bit of an arse and I ended up removing everything and starting again. for example why I had to setup a listener on my machine when it was hosting the DB i don't know (but I'm no Oracle expert at all), trying to use the universal installer to remove oracle wouldn't work and it told me to use deinstall and nothing seemed to work very well

that said the DB architecture is far sounder than MS SQL