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New contract problems! What should I do?

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    New contract problems! What should I do?

    Hi folks, looking for a bit of advice.

    I started my 3rd contract today which is a 6 monther with a large UK bank. During my first day I was speaking with my new boss who said "The job you're doing is going to be advertised for a permanent position in a couple of weeks" I was slightly surprised at this they asked in my interview if I'd be interested in going permenant and I basically fobbed it off by saying that I am enjoying contracting.

    So anway when they came out with that statement I was quite surprised as I thought if it was going to be permanant it would maybe be advertised 3 or 4 months down the line in my contract. My boss said that they'd like me to apply for it, I asked what would happen if I didn't would I be working alongside a permie or would my contract be cut short, the reply was it would probably be cut short.

    Now I realise that this is part and parcel of contracting and why many companies take on contactors so that if situations change we can be easily shuffled out the door but it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth that this was brought up on my first day. I have no interest in applying for the permenant roll so should I start looking for somewhere else or just stick it out?

    Added to this I've bought a new house which I move into next month so I was looking for something reasonably secure for 5 or 6 months so I could do the place up and buy furniture etc (it's my first place).
    Last edited by Skerla; 28 February 2006, 20:58.

    #2
    bluff your way through the 6 months and then go and get another contract (unless you want to go permie) - then bluff him for 6 month get the far better pay etc.etc.etc and the go permie?
    "Fish is the only food that is considered spoiled once it smells like what it is."
    - PJ O'Rourke

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      #3
      name of agency please?

      What is the name of the agency who put you into this situation?

      Did you make the agent or your new boss aware of how heavily leveraged you are?

      thanks
      error

      ps Its not 'part and parcel of contracting' - you have been very unlucky with choice of agent, i wouldn't approach them.
      jobjock www.dreamturbine.com

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        #4
        Skerla,

        I've just bought (my first) property too and my contract ends soon. I'm a bit worried, but this is the life I've chosen.

        My advise is don't sweat it. The bank may fail to find a decent replacement for you, and could even get an extension

        You're a contractor and you should be comfortable with these situations. If you can't hack it go back to being a perm...
        Cats are evil.

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          #5
          Classic example of project managers maybe under pressure to deliver but budget not being released for permanent staff... they will have to go through a couple of weeks of interviews, very likely wait for a notice period even if they do find someone suitable... my guess is you are a stopgap until the new financial year and they have budget to spend on such things as servers and contractors so they keep it / increase it for next year, then they terminate you for alleged infringements of contract.

          Check your contract, can you terminate, what notice period each way, keep copies of emails, ask for confirmation the job is actually being advertised as permanent - via email, not just verbally - get your CV out if you believe they are serious and not just playing politics, and jump sooner rather than later as you will not get a reference you can trust from them, and its easier to erase them from your CV after two weeks than explain a 3 month gap.

          Oh, then tell all your friends about the agency and the company involved so they avoid them.

          It would be quite funny if someone posted a message on a muslim web site claiming they had offended the prophet and circulated cartoons originating in Sweden as well... if it were true, of course.
          Last edited by mcquiggd; 1 March 2006, 01:20.
          Vieze Oude Man

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            #6
            mcquiggd "It would be quite funny if someone posted a message on a muslim web site claiming they had offended the prophet and circulated cartoons originating in Sweden as well... if it were true, of course."

            this is a little bit cryptic for my 15 down this time of the mornin . .

            ill go spin up the coffee mill again

            then ill have another read . . .



            erro
            jobjock www.dreamturbine.com

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              #7
              Originally posted by Skerla
              Hi folks, looking for a bit of advice.

              I started my 3rd contract today which is a 6 monther with a large UK bank. During my first day I was speaking with my new boss who said "The job you're doing is going to be advertised for a permanent position in a couple of weeks" I was slightly surprised at this they asked in my interview if I'd be interested in going permenant and I basically fobbed it off by saying that I am enjoying contracting.

              So anway when they came out with that statement I was quite surprised as I thought if it was going to be permanant it would maybe be advertised 3 or 4 months down the line in my contract. My boss said that they'd like me to apply for it, I asked what would happen if I didn't would I be working alongside a permie or would my contract be cut short, the reply was it would probably be cut short.

              Now I realise that this is part and parcel of contracting and why many companies take on contactors so that if situations change we can be easily shuffled out the door but it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth that this was brought up on my first day. I have no interest in applying for the permenant roll so should I start looking for somewhere else or just stick it out?

              Added to this I've bought a new house which I move into next month so I was looking for something reasonably secure for 5 or 6 months so I could do the place up and buy furniture etc (it's my first place).

              in this particular large financial institution the time from advert being posted to permy in the door can be between 4 and 6 months. I wouldn't sweat it

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                #8
                The last time I started a "perm to temp" job where I had told the manager that I didn't want it as a perm, I left at the end of the second re-newall and the perm person was still not in place.

                Wanting a perm to start within a couple of months, and getting a perm to start within a couple of months are not the same thing.

                tim

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by zeitghost
                  Shouldn't that be "temp to perm"?
                  Oops.........

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                    #10
                    I always say "Yes" when asked if I'll think about going permie by a customer.

                    Scenario.

                    14H.00 Customer : "Fleetwood, will you think about going permie?"
                    14H.00.0000000000001 "Of course. I've thought about it and the answer's "No"".
                    We must strike at the lies that have spread like disease through our minds

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