Why sign a contract before you start?

[Hiram King Of Tyre]

That was my thoughts exactly. I have a 1 week termination clause in the 1st 4 weeks.

It's a shame really as the work,people and the company all seem OK

[Hiram King Of Tyre]

I've emailed one of the managers and asked him to agree my time and expenses for this week which he has done. I'll now invoice the agency over the weekend and will then be in full accordance with my contract. Their payment terms are 7 days. However, they won't get paid until I fill out 'myclient's' correct time recording tool. Can you see them exposing themselves in this way or will they breach their own contract?

[SueEllen]

I've emailed one of the managers and asked him to agree my time and expenses for this week which he has done. I'll now invoice the agency over the weekend and will then be in full accordance with my contract. Their payment terms are 7 days. However, they won't get paid until I fill out 'myclient's' correct time recording tool. Can you see them exposing themselves in this way or will they breach their own contract?

What's the issue with completing the client's time recording tool?

I tend to have my own as well so the client has to sign/approve my company's one as well.

[nomadd]

Nose. Face. Spring to mind here.

Sign it, carry on.

If at a later date you need to show HMRC your contract. Just give them the contract you have with the agency. No one would know.

WHS.

[northernladuk]

I've emailed one of the managers and asked him to agree my time and expenses for this week which he has done. I'll now invoice the agency over the weekend and will then be in full accordance with my contract. Their payment terms are 7 days. However, they won't get paid until I fill out 'myclient's' correct time recording tool. Can you see them exposing themselves in this way or will they breach their own contract?

Not paying on time isn't a breach of contract and it certainly won't stand up to any legal scrutiny. They are a bit late, you get your money, you are not out of pocket so no case. Can be annoying but thats it. 7 days is very good, we often have to battle to get it down to 14 days. My last gig tried 45 days!! If they were a couple of days late on 7 days I certainly wouldn't be worried.

[Hiram King Of Tyre]

What's the issue with completing the client's time recording tool?

I tend to have my own as well so the client has to sign/approve my company's one as well.

Nothing....

However, they won't give me access to it untill I sign a declaration that I will comply with their 'Temporary Recruitment Handbook'. The other issue is that I understand.....erm I mean suspect that their time recording tool will then generate payment into my LtdCo bank account.......not very IR35 friendly.

[Hiram King Of Tyre]

Not paying on time isn't a breach of contract and it certainly won't stand up to any legal scrutiny. They are a bit late, you get your money, you are not out of pocket so no case. Can be annoying but thats it. 7 days is very good, we often have to battle to get it down to 14 days. My last gig tried 45 days!! If they were a couple of days late on 7 days I certainly wouldn't be worried.

agreed. it will be interesting to see if they pay though as it looks like they won't get paid though as I will have circumnavigated their time recording tool

[SueEllen]

Nothing....

However, they won't give me access to it untill I sign a declaration that I will comply with their 'Temporary Recruitment Handbook'. The other issue is that I understand.....erm I mean suspect that their time recording tool will then generate payment into my LtdCo bank account.......not very IR35 friendly.

I thought you had agencies involved this means it's your agency who pays your company not the client directly.

If the client has gone to the trouble of using an agency to ensure you can't claim to be their employee why would they pay your company directly?

[Hiram King Of Tyre]

I thought you had agencies involved this means it's your agency who pays your company not the client directly.

If the client has gone to the trouble of using an agency to ensure you can't claim to be their employee why would they pay your company directly?

They don't but I was told that once my time is approved on their system, they pay agency 1 who then pay agency 2 who then pay me whether I've raised an invoice or not? Hence I will raise an invoice immediately my time is approved. That way, as far as I'm concerned, they will be paying against my invoices (which is what the contract says)

[nomadd]

They don't but I was told that once my time is approved on their system, they pay agency 1 who then pay agency 2 who then pay me whether I've raised an invoice or not? Hence I will raise an invoice immediately my time is approved. That way, as far as I'm concerned, they will be paying against my invoices (which is what the contract says)

Dude, I've read all you posts on this thread. If you don't mind me saying, you are plain, fooking mad.

You have a contract. It's been vetted. Job done. All you now have to do is take the money and run. That's what contracting is all about.

You are flapping over a simple Client Policy document. My last 4 contracts have all been for Banks, and they all insisted this stuff is signed before they even let you set foot in the building.

The IR35 thing is incredibly unlikely to affect you. Ever. If it does, you'll have to pay some additional tax. That's a lot better than - as another poster kindly told you - than "cutting your nose off" and losing a contract and all the income from it.

I'm not sure which country you are living in at present? Over here in the UK, the economy is in a dire mess, and it's going to get far worse. Having a contract position at all is a blessing. So throwing one away over something as petty as a Policy document is plain, fooking idiotic, IMHO. Still, your call.