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Which J2EE gig to choose??

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    #11
    Originally posted by SuperZ View Post
    Enterprise Server Bean old bean.

    OP should take neither, sock puppets can`t develop.
    Enterprise Service Bus.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      are you seriously going to go for a less well paid contract because you get experience in "ESB"..whatever that is..

      I am confused because Option 1 project involves lots of middleware and integration tech that I have been wanting to work on for some time now. I do have prior experience in Enterprise service bus (that's why I got the gig !) , it's just that I wanted to build on that.

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        #13
        Take both, subcontract one to my company and a remote developer will do it.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mosh View Post
          ESB --> Enterprise service bus

          Ta for the correction

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mosh View Post
            I do have prior experience in Enterprise service bus
            That quote implies you don't. An ESB essentially boils down to intelligent use of durable message brokers, SOA and async-messaging.

            Unless you are fully comfortable with that, I'd suggest you are about to wreck someones project. Designing and implimenting a service bus isn't about a single product and isn't something you learn on the fly.

            So, if the role is more architect than development, i'd take option 2 if I were you.

            TM

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              #16
              Originally posted by themistry View Post
              That quote implies you don't.
              TM
              Not quite sure how you came to this conclusion. You dont know anything about my skills or background. Further, this comment also seems to suggest that the people who interviewed me (3 rounds) were complete idiots who did not have a clue about the technology or the project.

              Originally posted by themistry View Post
              An ESB essentially boils down to intelligent use of durable message brokers, SOA and async-messaging.
              TM
              Really !!! So you are saying that we dont need other protocols such as Http/SOAP/Rest?? And we never use sync messaging in SOA solutions???

              Anyways , you are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for replying though.

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                #17
                Originally posted by themistry View Post
                That quote implies you don't. An ESB essentially boils down to intelligent use of durable message brokers, SOA and async-messaging.

                Unless you are fully comfortable with that, I'd suggest you are about to wreck someones project. Designing and implimenting a service bus isn't about a single product and isn't something you learn on the fly.

                So, if the role is more architect than development, i'd take option 2 if I were you.

                TM
                'An ESB' is or can be different to 'ESB' in that 'An ESB' can be an element in your SOA toolkit, a means of achieving a Service Oriented Architecture. 'ESB' is more a concept and architectural pattern, combining asynchronous messaging, message routing, transformation etc. Many vendors label their products as ESB so you can therefore have experience in one or other of them.

                Isn't learning on the fly a key capability of any successful contractor?

                I would lean toward option 1 on a technology basis if that's your main criteria, although I would also look into the companies themselves and form an opinion based on the people you met at interview and how the environment seemed. But then option 2 is more money
                Last edited by basshead; 18 August 2009, 21:59.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mosh View Post
                  Hi Guys ,

                  I have two choices for my next gig.

                  Option A :
                  Tech : ESB , App servers , Spring , Hibernate
                  Paying : £ X
                  Commute: 20 minutes
                  Initial duration: 6 months (could be long term)


                  Option B:
                  Tech: Web Services , Spring , Hibernate , Struts , JSP
                  Paying: £ (1.142X)
                  Commute : 20 minutes
                  Initial Duration: 6 months (could be long term)

                  Both of them are big names in the UK. Any comments to help me decide will be much appreciated.
                  On what you've listed above, impossible to say.

                  I wouldn't base my decision on technology alone these days. What "industry" are these in? I'd base my choice much more around the industry segment than the technology, as every tom, dick and harry Indian is selling themselves - cheaply - based on their tech. skills these days (whether they actually have those skills or not.)

                  Cheers,

                  Nomadd
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by nomadd View Post
                    On what you've listed above, impossible to say.

                    I wouldn't base my decision on technology alone these days. What "industry" are these in? I'd base my choice much more around the industry segment than the technology, as every tom, dick and harry Indian is selling themselves - cheaply - based on their tech. skills these days (whether they actually have those skills or not.)

                    Cheers,

                    Nomadd
                    Option 1 : Media
                    Option 2: Utilities

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