Clients demanding permie working hours

[blacjac]

The plumber analogy doesn't work in this case either

Yeah it does, after all it would be quite feasible to expect a plumber to work between 9 - 5:30 and bugger off for lunch for an hour when you told them to if that is when you were at home.....

[SueEllen]

Yeah it does, after all it would be quite feasible to expect a plumber to work between 9 - 5:30 and bugger off for lunch for an hour when you told them to if that is when you were at home.....

Plumbers and builders tend to start earlier and go home earlier unless they are British where the start about 8.50am, bugger off for 2 hours and then go home at 4pm unless it's Friday then they go at 3pm.

[blacjac]

Yeah it does, after all it would be quite feasible to expect a plumber to work between 9 - 5:30 and bugger off for lunch for an hour when you told them to if that is when you were at home.....

Plumbers and builders tend to start earlier and go home earlier unless they are British where the start about 8.50am, bugger off for 2 hours and then go home at 4pm unless it's Friday then they go at 3pm.

Just cause they are expected to do it doesn't mean they will.....

[BolshieBastard]

My international banking client had an 8 - 5 work day with an hour for lunch. In nearly 3 years, I've never stuck to this work day pattern nor observed an hour's lunch and nothing has been said.

[Scotchpie]

I have worked in Japanese based companies before which had very strange working hours

My wife's Japanese and trust me, over there the average "salaryman" puts in a 12 hour day minimum (followed by a 2 hour stint in the izakaiya - pub - before the last train home)

9am to 5 with a set dinner in this climate and with a good hourly rate is definitely not to be ruled out.

[swamp]

To be honest, when clients ask you to follow certain procedures it's usually best to just nod and when the time comes either

a) follow it
b) sort of follow it
c) or just ignore it.

Usually I do 'b' or 'c'. I mean things like holiday request forms, set working hours, behaviour in front of other clients, and other tulipe.

Some contractors get all uppity and start waffling on about how they are a business and they won't be dictated to like a permie... blah blah IR35 blah. Clients usually just look bemused and say they don't know anything about IR35. Later said contractor doesn't get renewed.

Honestly, some contractors believe Hector is watching them on CCTV every working minute!

[expat]

I had a client who wanted me to start coming in "on time". So I did, vowing to leave on the dot too. I thought they'd soon change their tune when they saw that it reduced my productivity by 30-40%.

It did, and they didn't. They were happier with me doing 9-5 and less work.

[Fred Bloggs]

To be honest, when clients ask you to follow certain procedures it's usually best to just nod and when the time comes either

a) follow it
b) sort of follow it
c) or just ignore it.

Usually I do 'b' or 'c'. I mean things like holiday request forms, set working hours, behaviour in front of other clients, and other tulipe.

Some contractors get all uppity and start waffling on about how they are a business and they won't be dictated to like a permie... blah blah IR35 blah. Clients usually just look bemused and say they don't know anything about IR35. Later said contractor doesn't get renewed.

Honestly, some contractors believe Hector is watching them on CCTV every working minute!

Couldn't have written it better myself!

[blacjac]

To be honest, when clients ask you to follow certain procedures it's usually best to just nod and when the time comes either

a) follow it
b) sort of follow it
c) or just ignore it.

Usually I do 'b' or 'c'. I mean things like holiday request forms, set working hours, behaviour in front of other clients, and other tulipe.

Some contractors get all uppity and start waffling on about how they are a business and they won't be dictated to like a permie... blah blah IR35 blah. Clients usually just look bemused and say they don't know anything about IR35. Later said contractor doesn't get renewed.

Honestly, some contractors believe Hector is watching them on CCTV every working minute!

Couldn't have written it better myself!

While I used to agree with you, the Arctic case has changed my mind...

All it takes is for an investigator to ask someone in HR if you were a good employee and for them to reply "yep, they were at their desk for 9 every day, just like they had been told", and you're screwed.

[BolshieBastard]

While I used to agree with you, the Arctic case has changed my mind...

All it takes is for an investigator to ask someone in HR if you were a good employee and for them to reply "yep, they were at their desk for 9 every day, just like they had been told", and you're screwed.

But arctic didnt fail for that reason!