Opt Out Notification

[mailmannz]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

You are right Becs, however...the agents profit from the original term of the contract (1 month, 2 months 10 years). Whether they get a subsequent cut is dependent on how they look after their contractors.

If they piss them around like my first agent did then its sionara kimosabe when its renewal time.

Having said that...I do think its rather underhanded of contractors to try and cut the agent out straight away...at least wait until the end of the current contract before doing that.

On the other hand, agents arent exactly their own best friends are they? I would say dodgy acts by agents far outweighs dodgy acts by contractors.

BTW, Agent doesnt want to work with contractors. Something about small hands and smelling of cabbages :lol

Mailman

[expat]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

One of the things agents do is talk up how bad things will be for you if you don't do things their way. Looks like Oaksoft is really getting into this agent thing.

[mailmannz]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

You can always agree with them and opt out and when you get the contract sign it and also send another letter back to them saying you are opting back in.

Mailman

[widgetdance]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

You can always agree with them and opt out and when you get the contract sign it and also send another letter back to them saying you are opting back in

No you can't.
Your "opted" status is valid for the length of the contract! This even covers extensions unless there is a material change in the contract.

[rebeccaloos]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

Widget, I think technically Mailman is right. You can tell the agent "yes yes I am opting out", sign the contract and before you start your assignment, write a letter saying you are opting back in. I think I have seen somewhere that it is possible and legal to do that
(obviously the agent will hate you if you do that and you might find they don't necessarily pay you on time from then on...)

[widgetdance]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

In the regulations you must make your status known "before" introduction to the client based on the terms and conditions presented.
I dont see how, once you have met the client you can change that status?
Sure you can give them a letter saying you are opted back in but it means nothing for that particular contract!

Read the regs, its there in black and white.

[rebeccaloos]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

I dont see how, once you have met the client you can change that status?
Well that's the thing, I think you can. You can change it up to the minute you start working on that assignment.
Sorry can't offer any link / ref /proof. I may be wrong, and therefore you may be right, but I am 90% convinced I have seen something along those lines.

[mailmannz]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

You can change your status BEFORE you start the contract. However, once the contracted has started and you have opted out you are rooted until renewal.

Mailman

[widgetdance]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

You are right, I have consulted other sources.
An opt out can be withdrawn as long as it is done before the work commences.

My bad.

Correction.
I have been to the Dti web site and looked at their guidance document.
In section 32 (the limited company section) para 9 on page 33 it clearly says before introduction or commencement.
There is no mention of opting back in.

I think this is a recent change.

[mailmannz]

Re: What will happen if you do not opt out

Yes...it was recently changed on the 6th of April

Regards

Mailman