Getting That FIRST CONTRACT

[voron]

One thing I would say is that if you ever want to go into management it's very hard to do that purely by contracting, so it might be worth putting in about 5 years perm first in that case.

I've never had a permie role but I've managed to progress to management.

[Xenophon]

I've never had a permie role but I've managed to progress to management.

Thats because you are a shining light of professionalism and competence in a sector proliferated by lemons.

[iib900316a]

OK, so now it seems as though i'm on the right track,

If anyone has any Crystal Reports work that needs doing......give me a shout!

Thanks All,

Imran the Crystal Reports Man!

[voron]

Thats because you are a shining light of professionalism and competence in a sector proliferated by lemons.

Why thank you, Xenophon. You may have some jelly and ice cream.

And when the frustation of public sector contracting finally causes me to flip and run amok naked with an AK47, rest assured I will remember your words and spare you.

[Xenophon]

Good man Voron. Awfully considerate of you.

[MarillionFan]

Not Proper IT

The ladies on the board have a point Imran. Crystal is not 'proper' IT which is why they can all do it and I get paid £400p/d for doing it while they all scrape around for a living. (Milan & Threaded excluded).

Its not the actual use of the product that is difficult, its the consultancy, project management, business analysis, training and provision of solutions that is the Value Add which 9/10 cannot do. Thats whats worth it.

Any idiot can write a report same as any idiot can write 'Hello World' and call themselves a developer.

MF ("Crystal God").

[malvolio]

Actually I can do it, although I haven't bothered for a few years - took about week to learn it, since I was already fairly well up on consultancy, data analysis techniques and programming: call it a side-effect of thrity years IT...

But you are sort of right - the real money is in the analysis side, but that's not someone fresh out in the world is going to be offered, is it? And £400 a day - whoa, wish I could earn that much

[MarillionFan]

A week

As I said, everyone reckons they're experts in a week. Bit like .Net for dummies really.

Its all the other worldly experience that goes with it which comes which only comes with experience that makes you the cash, unless your a tulip hot developer or in a high paid niche market.