Attending client co internal training

[Signo_cypher]

Advice needed;

I am being asked to attend internal training at client co; it is for a new corporate time logging application.

All staff and contractors have to fill in the existing time logging application, you know the thing, input how many hours a day you work and on what.

This has no connection to my timesheets that I submit to my boss for approval this is separate corporate tool that serves no other purpose than getting my manager to email the team every week saying 'have you completed this weeks timesheet, if you don’t fill it in I don’t achieve my bonus'!!

I initially refused stating I was an external resource and had no intention of attending; I am now getting pressure to attend as 'everybody' has to attend.

I always try to work outside IR35 but this one isn’t going to go away, am I setting myself up here for future problems if I am ever investigated?

'Oh, that signo_cypher he was just like an employee!'

[TykeMerc]

In this sort of situation (it's not at all uncommon) I simply attend and charge the client for my time. In your case it's for a corporate timekeeping tool, the last one I attended was a corporate SHE (Safety, Health and Environment) training.

I don't get wound up over this sort of thing.

[pmeswani]

Advice needed;

I am being asked to attend internal training at client co; it is for a new corporate time logging application.

All staff and contractors have to fill in the existing time logging application, you know the thing, input how many hours a day you work and on what.

This has no connection to my timesheets that I submit to my boss for approval this is separate corporate tool that serves no other purpose than getting my manager to email the team every week saying 'have you completed this weeks timesheet, if you don’t fill it in I don’t achieve my bonus'!!

I initially refused stating I was an external resource and had no intention of attending; I am now getting pressure to attend as 'everybody' has to attend.

I always try to work outside IR35 but this one isn’t going to go away, am I setting myself up here for future problems if I am ever investigated?

'Oh, that signo_cypher he was just like an employee!'

If the client is changing the way you record time, why not attend? You won't get IR35 caught as a result. If HMRC does, then they are plain stoopid.

[norrahe]

The vast majorities of clientcos I've worked for have an internal time logging system for projects.

I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist, as it doesn't impact on your own timesheet.

A lot of companies just want to look at time spent on a project basis.

[NiceUpNorth]

i can't see an issue.... you still bill the time on

[Pickle2]

Why the fook does it need a training session at all?

How hard can it be!?

[pmeswani]

Why the fook does it need a training session at all?

How hard can it be!?

You would be suprised how many people get it wrong week in, week out. Not unheard off.

[moorfield]

I don't get wound up over this sort of thing.

WHS. Grin and bear it. This kind of thing goes with the territory, as does the compliance training rubbish. You can only end up making yourself look like a slight t1t if you get too grumpy about it.

[MPwannadecentincome]

Why the fook does it need a training session at all?

How hard can it be!?

Its not just the system to be used, its the policies that go around it as well, e.g. if someone works a 10 hour day but doesn't get overtime paid they just enter 7.5 or 8 hours (whatever the working day is) - this completes the sheet as far as the person is concerned and satisfies HR etc but screws up the guy who wants to know how much effort was REALLY expended so that the estimates can be more accurate next time!