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Agencies bluff and bluster ?

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    #11
    Doubt it would be worth their effort to chase you over this - they have to prove a contract exists.

    I did similar at the end of my last contract - verbally agreed a few weeks before end then told them I was off the day before the end of my original contract. Agent gave the usual lines, client was disappointed but understood a better offer had come along.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Smurficus View Post
      Doubt it would be worth their effort to chase you over this - they have to prove a contract exists.

      I did similar at the end of my last contract - verbally agreed a few weeks before end then told them I was off the day before the end of my original contract. Agent gave the usual lines, client was disappointed but understood a better offer had come along.
      cool, i've given them over 2 weeks notice so its not like i'll be leaving anything half finished.

      Agencies eh, who'd have 'em ?

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        #13
        Stolly, I always ask myself what would the agency / clientco do if the situation was reversed...ie they verbally offered you an extension, then withdraw the offer at the last minute. Answer - absolutely nothing!

        It's just business. What is right for their business, is right for your business.
        Gas masks don't fit snails...

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          #14
          Originally posted by dwm009 View Post
          Stolly, I always ask myself what would the agency / clientco do if the situation was reversed...ie they verbally offered you an extension, then withdraw the offer at the last minute. Answer - absolutely nothing!
          Right. And you might bluster and bluff, but it would have no effect. So - what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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            #15
            I agree. A lot of clients will raise the possbility of a contract extension, only back out to with the agreement 'due to budgetary issues' - leaving you the contractor in the cold.

            When it comes to this business you have look out for yourself and your bottom line. If client/agent are annoyed because of your decison that's not your problem

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              #16
              look after yourself - they will not take you to court.

              I had a similar situ with a large retail chain and a well known Computer People based agency. The account manager wasnt impressed that I wanted out but as they were cutting contractors I told him I had anotehr offer and would go. I spoke to the client who was cool - but the agency tried every trick in the book......told them to go swivel at the end. Slightly diff scenario but Ive yet to see an agency take a candidate to court

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                #17
                Originally posted by Stolly View Post
                have i really committed a huge professional faux pas, or is this just one of the things that can and does happen in the contracting game ?
                Another point of view......a bit rambling but hope its relevant

                If the client really liked you, they would treat you well.
                They wouldn't burn their bridges and in cases like this - they would be afraid you'd never work for them again and so be lenient and act accordingly in an understanding manner.
                "Yep no problem - sad to see you go - get in touch when you're free" etc

                Chances are, this is not the case (too many contractors about) but IMO, You should still talk to the client to see if they'd entertain employing you in the future. You should indicate that you could return direct for less money and see what they say.

                Give the thought that when it comes to contracts, the first paper you see, you sign. Say that you've been burned too many times with verbal contracts. ITS V. IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN CLIENT DIALOGUE AND IGNORE THE AGENCY.
                Don't actually say it - but let the client know that "its with regret that the pimp was too slow - but you do like the current agency and you would love to work with them again".

                If the answer from the client is bad - then IMO, it confirms you made the right choice - they were going to **** you anyway over a few weeks so laugh about it all the way to the bank.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Smurficus View Post
                  Doubt it would be worth their effort to chase you over this - they have to prove a contract exists.

                  I did similar at the end of my last contract - verbally agreed a few weeks before end then told them I was off the day before the end of my original contract. Agent gave the usual lines, client was disappointed but understood a better offer had come along.
                  If your ethics extend as far as what the law allows then you have no idea of how to conduct yourself professionally. If the client does indeed have a long memory (and a lot of them do) then you may suffer the consequences of your behaviour accordingly. By going back on your word you are sending a message that affects contractors in general.

                  Ever thought of applying for a job with computer people?
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    By going back on your word you are sending a message that affects contractors in general.
                    Is that why everyone thinks agents are tossers?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                      If your ethics extend as far as what the law allows then you have no idea of how to conduct yourself professionally. If the client does indeed have a long memory (and a lot of them do) then you may suffer the consequences of your behaviour accordingly. By going back on your word you are sending a message that affects contractors in general.

                      Ever thought of applying for a job with computer people?
                      The biggest weapon an agent has - is the soaping of a contractor's "pride in himself"
                      The biggest weakness a contractor has - is thinking the agent has the right to manipulate them.

                      Hats off to you DA, If you sell "Fear" to the "ones born every minute" - then why not? - their lookout.

                      This "long memory" threat is just typical of agent's psycological play.

                      If this idea was truly valid, then every sharp practise an agent makes, would sink it in the long term.

                      For the record, I've done it and its never been a problem.
                      A few years later, another pimp from the same agency got me a nice gig.
                      Some long memory

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