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Is 8 hours a day common thing ??

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    #21
    Originally posted by P1mpAndPr0ud View Post
    We work 10 hours a day, here...

    Methinks I'm in the wrong profession...

    Me agrees

    I never do more than 8 on a normal working day. In fact, usually slightly less. That includes the IBs I've worked at. At one IB I'm sure some of the permies slept there.

    If you can't complete what is required in a normal working day then you're not doing your job properly or the work is under resourced.

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      #22
      I will simply refuse to work over 8 hours a day.

      If you have to work more than that it tells you the application is tulip and they want you to pay for their decades of crapness.

      Having said that I am doing about 100 hours a week when I add the time spent on plan B to the day job, it's been that way for about 6 months. My head is mush just now.

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        #23
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        I will simply refuse to work over 8 hours a day.

        If you have to work more than that it tells you the application is tulip and they want you to pay for their decades of crapness.

        Having said that I am doing about 100 hours a week when I add the time spent on plan B to the day job, it's been that way for about 6 months. My head is mush just now.

        Utter bollocks. Only permies work 'fixed' hours and leave on the dot at 4 or 5 o clock etc.

        If you operated a 'proper' business, you wouldnt say 'oh, I've done my 8 hours for the day so Im off home now!'
        I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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          #24
          Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
          Utter bollocks. Only permies work 'fixed' hours and leave on the dot at 4 or 5 o clock etc.

          If you operated a 'proper' business, you wouldnt say 'oh, I've done my 8 hours for the day so Im off home now!'
          Absolutely right. Regular hours is a great way to be flagged as a disguised employee, though it's obviously unavoidable in some cases.

          I have worked anywhere from 3 to 18 hours in a day - the key is to have your contract defined as "per business day". In my view/experience that is.
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            #25
            Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
            Utter bollocks. Only permies work 'fixed' hours and leave on the dot at 4 or 5 o clock etc.

            If you operated a 'proper' business, you wouldnt say 'oh, I've done my 8 hours for the day so Im off home now!'
            Aye, the tax man is going to be sitting outside ClientCo for a year checking my exit times to use it in an IR35 investigation.

            If you want to stay in all hours to give the impression that you run a 'proper' business then go for it. To me you are just getting shafted as much as the promotion hunting permies.

            You get a days consultancy off me and that day does not go past 8 hours unless I have buggered up somewhere. That is my definition of a professional day and if the client does not like it then I walk.

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              #26
              I'm working in a private medical practice in London. I'm not allowed to work more than 37.5 hours per week, and in the contract I have to leave my desk for at least half an hour every day for lunch. This is monitored by the HR police.
              SUFTUM

              May life give you what you need, rather than what you want....

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                #27
                Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                Aye, the tax man is going to be sitting outside ClientCo for a year checking my exit times to use it in an IR35 investigation.

                If you want to stay in all hours to give the impression that you run a 'proper' business then go for it. To me you are just getting shafted as much as the promotion hunting permies.

                You get a days consultancy off me and that day does not go past 8 hours unless I have buggered up somewhere. That is my definition of a professional day and if the client does not like it then I walk.

                He doesnt have to sit outside your client co for a year. Most buildings have an access system that use a swipe card or electronic key which also identifies you. Your hours on site will be easily obtainable direct from the client.

                I dont stay 'all hours' as you put it but I do vary my hours on site. The permies cant do 4 day compressed working week either.

                If you want to stick rigidly to your hours and give some permie manager the impression you work a fixed working pattern like the rest of his permie team, then, be my guest, go right ahead.
                I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                  He doesnt have to sit outside your client co for a year. Most buildings have an access system that use a swipe card or electronic key which also identifies you. Your hours on site will be easily obtainable direct from the client.
                  I have never been in a building where you have to use a pass to get out, you just press the exit button on the door so really door systems only ever record entry times, not much you can prove with that.

                  IR35 rules are starting to become voodoo like superstitions for some people, no basis on fact but contractors will just go along with it "just in case".

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                    #29
                    I try to get an hourly rate then aim to get my hours up to about 50 a week. Usually when I'm on contract I'll try and get more work than I can handle in a 40-hour week and go for the 6 day week. I do that by putting my hand up for everything thats going.

                    Thats coz I usually work for about a year then have quite a few months off, and I have no problem working 6 days a week in winter.

                    I'm all about maximum bucks in minimum time, coz as we all know, you can be benched at a moments notice...

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                      #30
                      Done 40 hour weeks for years, then got a couple of public sector gigs, both 35 hours a week.

                      I find it weird working 35 hours, it seems a bit on the low side, but if thats how the contract is negotiated, so be it. I charge by the day so its largely irrelevent for me.

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