back to perm job?

[JoJoGabor]

If you are one of the last employees to be taken on during a downturn and they start making redundancies do you think you might be near the head of the queue? Particularly as they don't have to pay you so much redundancy money if you've been there less than 2 years I think.

WHile this happens quite a lot, its actually illegal to make somebody redundant just because they were the last in. The position needs to be made redundant, not the person.

You could always threaten them with legal action as they are chucking you out of the door!

[zara_backdog]

Don't forget that you'll have a hell of a job convincing them that you aren't doing exactly what you have metnioned here.

Employers are very nervous of ex contractors, especially in downturns. Ride it out like a man!

Wasn't even mentioned at my 'Permie' interview - apart from "Must be challanging working with different projects and companies, we like people who enjoy a challange!"

[eyetie]

Newbie - this isn't a slight slump, this is a big dip. If you have less than 3 years experience (or unable to blag said experience), consider perm roles for the interim.

Its illegal to target individuals for redundancy but if you're on the same rank as your fellows (e.g. "Consultant"), they can say they want to dispose of the least experienced (which just so happens to include the recently recruited).

I think perm salaries have gone down too as supply rises above demand there.

[JoJoGabor]

Yeah perm slaries have dropped about 10 - 12k for my role (VMware consultant) in the South-East

[eyetie]

Ouchy.

Yeah perm slaries have dropped about 10 - 12k for my role (VMware consultant) in the South-East

[Liability]

Yeah perm slaries have dropped about 10 - 12k for my role (VMware consultant) in the South-East

blimey thats a big drop! with the top tear VM partners salaries seem still ok. Who did you go with?

[KentPhilip]

A few months ago in my contract I was offered a perm position with the company. I politely declined.
Now a few weeks ago they announced all the permies have to move 100 miles away to the new office, or take voluntary redundancy. I have been asked to stay on "to handle the relocation"

Moral of the story: Always be a contractor.

[Clippy]

A few months ago in my contract I was offered a perm position with the company. I politely declined.
Now a few weeks ago they announced all the permies have to move 100 miles away to the new office, or take voluntary redundancy. I have been asked to stay on "to handle the relocation"

Moral of the story: Always be a contractor.

So, you do office removals as well.

[swamp]

I would rather sell my car, sell my television, and even sell my microwave before I went permie.

Remember in a recession you're not going to be looking at top-of-the-line blue chip permie roles on great greenfield projects. It's going to be maintenance projects for rubbish backwater firms, for rubbish money, with a sneering boss and boring colleagues.

[Stan.goodvibes]

I would rather sell my car, sell my television, and even sell my microwave before I went permie.

Not the plasma!