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    They surely have to be joking don't they?

    Just got this in my inbox:

    I am currently looking for a C#.Net Developer to help with a 3-6 month contract in the South west. The role will be maintaining 2 projects within both winforms and web forms. The contract will be likely to extended and will ensure work over the Christmas period.

    The company utilise the following skill sets:
    C#
    ..Net 2.0
    ASP.Net
    Winforms
    Web Forms


    The rate for this position is between £12-18 per hour.

    Worryingly, this does not seem to be an isolated aberration - I did a search for c# / asp.net contracts on Jobserve earlier and noticed a few coming in at less that 200 quid a day. Are things really that bad? Thank god I'm on a 12 monther at the moment!

    #2
    Seen a few jobs doing this, basically permie wages on a 1 year contract.

    They will be getting paid straight from the company and would be taxed PAYE at source.

    The only person that would apply would be an out of work permie who was desperate to get something.

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      #3
      That was how it went with Network, Server and Desktop support about 8 years ago. Rates went from £30-40 an hour to £12-20 and haven't gone back up since. Admittedly it was because every bloke and his dog could take basic training and blag a job and there were an awful lot of imported support people who undercut the rates.

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        #4
        Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
        That was how it went with Network, Server and Desktop support about 8 years ago. Rates went from £30-40 an hour to £12-20 and haven't gone back up since. Admittedly it was because every bloke and his dog could take basic training and blag a job and there were an awful lot of imported support people who undercut the rates.
        That's not true - I'm in network support and i'm getting quite a bit over 200 per day, what i do and my expereince isn't that amazing (6yrs+), and i'm in the north east. I've also seen server stuff around here for around £30p/h. Sometimes you do see jobs for £12-20 p/h but they are either idiots or the job is very junior.

        Mid to high end range is normally upwards of 500 per day. However it is correct that the very high end (CCIE/Design etc) has droppped down from around £800 per day to around £500-600, from what i've seen.

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          #5
          Originally posted by wurzel View Post
          Just got this in my inbox:

          I am currently looking for a C#.Net Developer to help with a 3-6 month contract in the South west. The role will be maintaining 2 projects within both winforms and web forms. The contract will be likely to extended and will ensure work over the Christmas period.

          The company utilise the following skill sets:
          C#
          ..Net 2.0
          ASP.Net
          Winforms
          Web Forms


          The rate for this position is between £12-18 per hour.

          Worryingly, this does not seem to be an isolated aberration - I did a search for c# / asp.net contracts on Jobserve earlier and noticed a few coming in at less that 200 quid a day. Are things really that bad? Thank god I'm on a 12 monther at the moment!

          Sounds like a fixed term contract to me (i.e. perm role, rather than contract). The agency have broken the salary down into an hourly rate allowing for tax and NI reductions.
          I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying...

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            #6
            Originally posted by the_duderama View Post
            That's not true - I'm in network support and i'm getting quite a bit over 200 per day, what i do and my expereince isn't that amazing (6yrs+), and i'm in the north east. I've also seen server stuff around here for around £30p/h. Sometimes you do see jobs for £12-20 p/h but they are either idiots or the job is very junior.

            Mid to high end range is normally upwards of 500 per day. However it is correct that the very high end (CCIE/Design etc) has droppped down from around £800 per day to around £500-600, from what i've seen.
            That was what I thought until my 3 year gravy train contract hit the buffers, if your contract ended tomorrow you may find yourself looking at the £18ph hour roles with the same disgust I had, 4 months on the bench and you have no choice.
            Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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              #7
              Originally posted by the_duderama View Post
              That's not true - I'm in network support and i'm getting quite a bit over 200 per day, what i do and my expereince isn't that amazing (6yrs+), and i'm in the north east. I've also seen server stuff around here for around £30p/h. Sometimes you do see jobs for £12-20 p/h but they are either idiots or the job is very junior.

              Mid to high end range is normally upwards of 500 per day. However it is correct that the very high end (CCIE/Design etc) has droppped down from around £800 per day to around £500-600, from what i've seen.
              Well it is what I found and why I got out of support. Yes well paying jobs were still available, but they were thin on the ground.
              Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

              I preferred version 1!

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                #8
                hmm, i just got offered a £18ph role with the NHS down south...about 3 hours drive away from home.

                after working out the costs of staying away, the junk food I would end up buying, additional petrol costs....after tax, I think I would be better off stacking shelves at my local Sainsburys....

                So I turned it down....on the bench for 3 months and counting.....

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                  #9
                  what's your skillset? that seems stupidly low

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
                    That was what I thought until my 3 year gravy train contract hit the buffers, if your contract ended tomorrow you may find yourself looking at the £18ph hour roles with the same disgust I had, 4 months on the bench and you have no choice.
                    What were you supporting? Also it's not just support that i do - network implementations as well, no server stuff though as that is generally over subscribed.

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