fixed term contract help

[tim123]

To be ir35 compliant you should be fulfilling a stream of deliverables to fit your expertise, not just filling in time being given any work to do to fill the time.
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I am well aware of that, thank you very much.

But if I insisted on that sort of relationship with my clients I would have none.

They ALL want me, only on the basis of, "sit at this desk and do whatever you are given to do that day/week/month", and if you aren't prepared to work that way, we'll give the job to someone else.

tim

[Denny]

I am well aware of that, thank you very much.

But if I insisted on that sort of relationship with my clients I would have none.

They ALL want me, only on the basis of, "sit at this desk and do whatever you are given to do that day/week/month", and if you aren't prepared to work that way, we'll give the job to someone else.

tim

I hope you work through a brollie then, to be on the safe side. Seems to me that you aren't really cut out for freelancing only temping.

[chicane]

I hope you work through a brollie then, to be on the safe side. Seems to me that you aren't really cut out for freelancing only temping.

Denny I think you're being a little black and white here. If tim123 is in a market sector where the supply of contractors exceeds the demand (quite common in the lower rate work), the clients can demand a significant amount of flexibility from the contractors in terms of working practices - because as he states, the clients can simply go and find somebody else who will be more flexible.

In my opinion, at least, it has very little to do with being "cut out for freelancing" and much more to do with market forces.

[Denny]

Denny I think you're being a little black and white here. If tim123 is in a market sector where the supply of contractors exceeds the demand (quite common in the lower rate work), the clients can demand a significant amount of flexibility from the contractors in terms of working practices - because as he states, the clients can simply go and find somebody else who will be more flexible.

In my opinion, at least, it has very little to do with being "cut out for freelancing" and much more to do with market forces.

That still wouldn't make any difference to his ir35 situation though. The market doesn't come into the equation when ascertaining ir35 compliance. You either have a compliant contract and working practices or you don't.

It seems that Tim isn't prepared to risk asking for compliant terms and practices if it means he won't get the gig or risk being kicked out earlier and would rather comply with what the client wants and adapt accordingly. That degree of flexibility would only ensure he is gainfully employed as a temp and he'd be better off using a brolly, if that is the case.

There's nothing at all black and white about it.