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Trying to get into Java J2EE

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    #21
    Originally posted by SoupDragon
    Sorry I should have made it clearer. My motivation for retraining was to future proof my skills. I suppose there are still people out there doing COBOL so I probably don't need to worry!
    Don't worry. Any day now the industry will turn against web front ends, and Java and .NET will go with it and real programmers will be in big demand again.
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SoupDragon
      Sorry I should have made it clearer. My motivation for retraining was to future proof my skills. I suppose there are still people out there doing COBOL so I probably don't need to worry!
      In fact I had trouble getting work in unix c client/server some years ago, and I suspected it was because I had 19 years COBOL on my CV. So I just eliminated 15 years of it, and suddenly I wasn't stuck in COBOL any more.

      But I agree with other posters like Cowboy Bob: in anything worthwhile, 1 year of experience doesn't make you knowledgeable, far less an expert.
      God made men. Sam Colt made them equal.

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        #23
        Originally posted by SoupDragon
        What I don't buy is the ridiculously long amounts of experience some jobs ask for.
        Becuase that is what they need.

        I recently deisgned a warehouse from scratch for a major UK retailer. Told them which country to locate it (was in Europe), how big, what size, shape, colour, people, shift patterns etc to use. All based on me saying "x marks the spot". At £150m of capital expenditure they better hope I know what the **** I am talking about.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sockpuppet
          Becuase that is what they need.

          I recently deisgned a warehouse from scratch for a major UK retailer. Told them which country to locate it (was in Europe), how big, what size, shape, colour, people, shift patterns etc to use. All based on me saying "x marks the spot". At £150m of capital expenditure they better hope I know what the **** I am talking about.
          show off

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            #25
            Originally posted by TheRightStuff
            show off
            lol, yeah all I really meant was it shouldn't need that much experience to be a member of a team working on just a part of a project, not being the architect of the whole thing.

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