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    #11
    never trust anyone ever.
    The more people you trust the quicker your wallet will empty.

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      #12
      yeah I recorn I deserve more money, I having to do complex mathematical programming than my brain is used to !

      I think I am going to approach the client to find out how much they are paying to get an Idea how much to ask th e agency

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        #13
        Originally posted by css_jay99
        yeah I recorn I deserve more money, I having to do complex mathematical programming than my brain is used to !

        I think I am going to approach the client to find out how much they are paying to get an Idea how much to ask th e agency
        Your agency contract probably has a non disclosure clause in it requiring that you do not discus money with the client. Do not break the contract.
        Be a pro. If the agent has broken a verbal agreement then walk away. Don't use them. Do not tell others unless you can prove your version in court.

        Tell the client you will not be renewing and why without breaking your contract.
        Tell them you took the job at a low rate on the understanding that the agent told you the client would review after a months trial. That you would recieve aan increased rate after that time. The agent is now denying this. You feel you can not stay.
        Make sure you do not suggest any dishonesty on the agents part. It is your misunderstanding of a conversation.
        [edit]Telling the client the rate you expected to be on now is not telling them the actual rate you are on.
        Last edited by The Lone Gunman; 19 April 2007, 06:07.
        I am not qualified to give the above advice!

        The original point and click interface by
        Smith and Wesson.

        Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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          #14
          Originally posted by css_jay99
          I am still green in the contract arena, so please be gentle.

          I started a contract 2 months ago, but told the agent that I want more money for the gig. he told me to that they'll(i.e. the client) see how i get on after one month and then up it to what i was asking. ( this part i thought was dodgy considering i was signing an initial 3 months contract). Ok, almost two months in, I called the agency to find out about what we talked about and was told that the guy i spoke to has since left and that "did i get this deal in writing !"


          I now have a feeling that the client is paying them a lot more money hence they must be taking a huge cut even if they paid me what I was asking for.
          I think someone else might be in the same exact situation but dont want to shame the agency here yet.

          I am tempted to ask the client how much they are paying the agency

          I should now be netgotiating a renewal in next 2 weeks. I was wondering how to approach this situation. While this is a good people/investments/datawarehouse gig, i really HATE beign cheated and fill maybe i should start looking for something else. i dont see why i should do the donkey work while the agent makes the big bucks. I only agreed in the first place to the job cos it is in london (my last gig was 90miles away)


          Are agents supposed to take a blanket % cut or is it just the case of the lowest they can get away with ?.

          cheers


          css_jay99
          Is your agent DA?

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            #15
            Originally posted by andrew_neil_uk
            Is your agent DA?
            No,

            however no should ask again cos its easy to detect who i am cos I have since found out that the agency is their preffered supplier.

            I asked my manager and he does not know how much HR is paying cos its kept secret., but we worked out that the agency must be getting AT LEAST 25% .

            I am certainly not pleased at all !

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              #16
              Originally posted by css_jay99
              No,

              however no should ask again cos its easy to detect who i am cos I have since found out that the agency is their preffered supplier.

              I asked my manager and he does not know how much HR is paying cos its kept secret., but we worked out that the agency must be getting AT LEAST 25% .

              I am certainly not pleased at all !
              Welcome to the world of contracting.

              Next.
              The squint, the cocked eye and clenched first are the cornerstones of all Merseyside communication from birth to grave

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                #17
                Originally posted by css_jay99
                No,

                however no should ask again cos its easy to detect who i am cos I have since found out that the agency is their preffered supplier.

                I asked my manager and he does not know how much HR is paying cos its kept secret., but we worked out that the agency must be getting AT LEAST 25% .

                I am certainly not pleased at all !
                I know you are new to contracting, but as adviced before be careful you are not in breach of contract...You are supposed to be in business now, not an employee so start acting like one...Your CLIENT may be friendly with you now about this, but as you say even the people within the Client that know you don't know the rate....That is between them and their supplier and has got nothing at all to do with you...

                If you thought the rate was too low you should not have taken the contract....Your contract is coming up for renewal real soon, renegiate and be prepared to walk....

                This happens everywhere in business that is how money is being made...buy cheap and sell it with as much mark-up as you can get away with....

                Do you really think the big four consultants get anywhere close to £3000/day themselves? Hell no, more like a 75% margin on them....

                Get over it and renegotiate....

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by EqualOpportunities
                  Welcome to the world of contracting.

                  Next.
                  U So cruel !

                  I am not having a good day at all.

                  1) My broadband is not working well !

                  2) Just been charged £180 for two months Gas !. so must be a leak outside the house

                  3) Empire Direct (online retailler) have got £2300 of my wad and have still not refunded me my money !

                  4) Halifax transfered up to £3k out of my account (into ISA's) and it seems to have gone AWOL. Been at the bank for the last hour & They dont know where it is !

                  5) Bloody Agency shafting me as well

                  what else could possibly go wrong today.

                  It seems you cant bendover for a second without institutions not trying to screw you.

                  I am certainly going to end up in the west end tonight for 2/3 drinks to put my troubles behind.


                  css_jay99

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by css_jay99

                    I am certainly going to end up in the west end tonight for 2/3 drinks to put my troubles behind.


                    css_jay99
                    Watch out for pick pockets and don't buy timeshare...
                    Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by css_jay99
                      I am certainly going to end up in the west end tonight for 2/3 drinks to put my troubles behind.
                      I heard they buy alcohol at a fraction of the price that they sell it to you for, make sure you ask them how much it costs them

                      Hope it all picks up for you
                      All that is necessary for evil members to succeed is that good members post nothing

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