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EB regs - no opt out and direct to client

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    EB regs - no opt out and direct to client

    I've just found something interesting in the EB regs on the DTI site.

    http://www.dti.gov.uk/files/file24248.pdf


    "Regulation 6(1) prevents employment agencies and employment
    businesses from taking any detrimental action or including restrictive
    terms in work-seekers’ contracts, which prevent them from either:
    (a) i) terminating their contract with the employment agency or
    business;
    ii) working for others such as the client directly or through a
    competing employment business;"

    Does this mean that if you opt-in (or not opt out) then the familiar restriction on not working direct for the same client for X months after contract end (or having to pay the EB their unearned cut) can't be enforced ?

    Anyone ?
    It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. www.areyoupopular.mobi

    #2
    Originally posted by oraclesmith
    I've just found something interesting in the EB regs on the DTI site.

    http://www.dti.gov.uk/files/file24248.pdf


    "Regulation 6(1) prevents employment agencies and employment
    businesses from taking any detrimental action or including restrictive
    terms in work-seekers’ contracts, which prevent them from either:
    (a) i) terminating their contract with the employment agency or
    business;
    ii) working for others such as the client directly or through a
    competing employment business;"

    Does this mean that if you opt-in (or not opt out) then the familiar restriction on not working direct for the same client for X months after contract end (or having to pay the EB their unearned cut) can't be enforced ?

    Anyone ?
    You may be right. What does it say about the terms between the EB and the client?
    I am not qualified to give the above advice!

    The original point and click interface by
    Smith and Wesson.

    Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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      #3
      The item goes onto say though that you have to opt-out for this to be applicable- doesn't it ?
      Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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        #4
        Originally posted by Bluebird
        The item goes onto say though that you have to opt-out for this to be applicable- doesn't it ?
        No, quite the opposite in fact :-

        "It is important to remember, when applying regulation 6(1)(a)(ii), that the
        term “work-seeker” includes limited company contractors and persons
        supplied through limited company contractors that have not given notice
        to opt out
        of the Regulations. This is as a result of the provisions of
        regulation 32(3), which specifically extends the definition of work-seeker
        to limited company contractors (which have not opted out of the
        Regulations) in these circumstances. Therefore the agency or
        employment business may not restrict either the person supplied by a
        limited company,
        or the limited company itself from terminating the
        contract with it and taking up work with a person other than it or the
        limited company itself."
        It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. www.areyoupopular.mobi

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          #5
          so if you haven't opted in, then you've opted out by default ?
          Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bluebird
            so if you haven't opted in, then you've opted out by default ?
            Other way round. Opted in is default.

            Try reading it. There is a link to it up there! It is not that long or complicated.
            I am not qualified to give the above advice!

            The original point and click interface by
            Smith and Wesson.

            Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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              #7
              Originally posted by Bluebird
              so if you haven't opted in, then you've opted out by default ?
              No. If you do nothing, you're in. If you send the EB an opt-out before they introduce you to a client, then you're out. If you're out, you look better from an IR35 point of view, but lets not get into that.

              Regulation 10 covers the agreement between EB and client and it's a bit tricky to work out. It seems to indicate that the EB can only charge the client a penalty if they engage contractor within 2 months of the end of the assignment. So this seems to indicate that the old 6 or 12 month tie-in's are illegal - at least they should be if there's been a couple of months gap between assignments. Although, I guess if you opt out, then anything goes.
              Last edited by oraclesmith; 27 February 2007, 15:58.
              It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. www.areyoupopular.mobi

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                #8
                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman
                Other way round. Opted in is default.

                Try reading it. There is a link to it up there! It is not that long or complicated.
                I did read it !

                What it reads to me is that if you haven't opted out, then you are considered a workseeker, and you can't restrict a workseeker who has opted out.

                Perhaps I'm being senile...
                Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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                  #9
                  if you haven't opted out, then you are considered a workseeker, and you can't restrict a workseeker.
                  It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. www.areyoupopular.mobi

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oraclesmith
                    if you haven't opted out, then you are considered a workseeker, and you can't restrict a workseeker.
                    so the opting out refers to opting out of the legislation not the agency terms.

                    Now I understand !
                    Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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