Prince Training

[malvolio]

Trust me if your doing the foundation go for the practioner. You'll know enough after the foundation to do the practioner anyway.

Except Practitioner means nothing to the ITIL expert: how can you be a certified expert in only one of ten conjoined disciplines?

ITIL Manager Certificate is the only one with any commercial value. Two week residential course followed by a three day exam, sadly, so not for the faint-hearted!

[Sockpuppet]

Except Practitioner means nothing to the ITIL expert: how can you be a certified expert in only one of ten conjoined disciplines?

ITIL Manager Certificate is the only one with any commercial value. Two week residential course followed by a three day exam, sadly, so not for the faint-hearted!

Ok, I was quoting my experiance of a non IT based sector. PRINCE2 is still the best thing we have to the most widely accepted form of PM qualification.

ITIL doesnt apply to my discipline but PRINCE2 is starting to more and more be used as a structure.

Unfortunatly logistics is such a highly regulated market by the time you have stuff such as CPC and your o-licence clients dont look for much else. Ok, you may be legally qualified but doesnt mean you know jack about project management.

[malvolio]

Yep agreed, and that applies to all the trades. One reason I will hire the guy whose CV shows the experience in preference to the guy who has the paperwork, every time.

If only the agencies would realise that - I'd find it a lot easier getting work!

[ratewhore]

It is useful for those who work in the public sector. At least you'll know what the project and programme managers are talking about...

[malvolio]

Well perhaps, but I'm old enough to have learned PRINCE back in the 80s. The terminology is stil the same, the basic workflow is the same, the risk anaylsis scoring is the same and you still don't use the same 90% of it on most projects!

I was once told it didn't say PM on the CV anywhere. The last gig at that time was to source, equip, staff, design and train a complete Support Desk from scratch,.to budget and time constraints. Clearly not something that requires PM skills then...

[MarillionFan]

If the originator of this thread had been called Harry, then this would have been funny.

[Sockpuppet]

Harry?

[Ardesco]

Prince 2....

Harry....

Oh I give up!!

[Sockpuppet]

Groan. I'm glad I didnt get that first time round.

[BoredBloke]

I wouldn't say that the foundation has no value in the market - it depends on the level which you are aiming at. There are a load of jobs out there at the lower end of the PM chain where they want some knowledge of P2. If you have the foundation then you are a step ahead of the guy who has not.

I'd say it is good to get you passed the initial filter. When I did mine I only just passed because I only got the book the night before my first day. Did 3 days and scraped through. I would say it is easy if you have the book say a week before the course - so you can prep yourself a bit. On the plus side there is only a finite number of questions and a few passed papers can give you enough to scrape through.